The masses always surrender to living under one form of government economy society or another there is no way around that. The problem is finding a combination of these that is a win for all people and the country not a win for one in spite of the other.
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The masses always surrender to living under one form of government economy society or another there is no way around that. The problem is finding a combination of these that is a win for all people and the country not a win for one in spite of the other.
Quote from slider123456:
The masses always surrender to living under one form of government economy society or another there is no way around that. The problem is finding a combination of these that is a win for all people and the country not a win for one in spite of the other.
be my guest
Quote from slider123456:
The masses always surrender to living under one form of government economy society or another there is no way around that.
you want to know why; because they are weak, they are lazy ass mother f*ckers, not that they don't work, but that is all they can do and all they want to do, they don't want to define their lives, they don't want to set the path for their lives, they f*cking don't even know what they want, it is highly time consuming and energy consuming to think, to think about the things that matter most, they want a predefined path, a path someone has set for them so they can walk that path, they want to go to school, finish school go to work at 9AM come back home at 5PM and get their f*cking paycheck
you see the same thing with technology, what is the percentage of people that have helped advance technology to the point it stands today, almost zero when compared to the world population, but almost every f*cking fag has a cellphone in hand.
now tell me why you care so much about these losers that you want to set an efficient path for them to live through?
Excellent Commentary
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It is only natural that the actual innovators are sifted from the many.
When a fish spawns, how many eggs does it take to result in one adult?
Most of the eggs served the food chain.
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Innovations are bought by the masses, not created by them....but the masses are part of the total.
Everyone is part of the required equation.
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The one vote one value is reflective of township valuation formed by sales tax revenue. The innovator is the hero, and the hero was also rewarded in stock of the company where the innovation started, where all workers matter and are rewarded by contribution and dedication.
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It is only natural that the actual innovators are sifted from the many.
When a fish spawns, how many eggs does it take to result in one adult?
Most of the eggs served the food chain.
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Innovations are bought by the masses, not created by them....but the masses are part of the total.
Everyone is part of the required equation.
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The one vote one value is reflective of township valuation formed by sales tax revenue. The innovator is the hero, and the hero was also rewarded in stock of the company where the innovation started, where all workers matter and are rewarded by contribution and dedication.
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Quote from libertad:
Excellent Commentary All
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i like how you copy paste that into all of your posts, it's actually pretty cool, it's like making a fool out of the readers
Quote from libertad:
Well now.....the method does have to be elegantly simple.....so that all can move from point a to pòint b.
most people don't like simple even if they say they do. complex minds like simple systems so they can move through it smoothly and get more done, simple minds prefer complex systems because it entertains their simple minds, like mazes for rats, they love running around in circles like f*ing pigs till their death drops them dead into their sh*thole graves
you just don't get it; the average person is f*ing dumb as shit. Or you are just too f*ing optimistic.
Quote from libertad:
Obviously we are talking about a revolution.....but in a peaceful manner....
f you, where in history have you seen a revolution of that size?
besides no theory has every been implemented properly. they say we are going to implement say communism, but they only take the parts that are of benefit to their f*ing gay ass and claim to have created a communist state.
Excellent Commentary, the sharpone
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Of course, assembly instructions are rarely followed to the T, even when there are only two parts.
However, when a system is fatally flawed, you do not have to go down with the ship.
Just stop the ship, get on land, and build another one that is not perfect.....but is obviously better than the one you were riding in.
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thesharpone writes.....
you, where in history have you seen a revolution of that size?
besides no theory has every been implemented properly. they say we are going to implement say communism, but they only take the parts that are of benefit to their f*ing gay ass and claim to have created a communist state.
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This is interesting as I have mentioned in previous posts, countries have been mislabeled all along.....
The labels should be changed to:
Excellent Management
Good Management
Managed
Bad Management
Not Managed
Reason being is that each country works from the basics.
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Another simple example....
Many universities use the 4.0 grade system.....
So there is no differentiation between a 89 versus 80 point student.
A 5.0 system would give the student what he actually made ...an 89.....which would be a 3.9....the 80 student would be a 3.0.....
Even a stellar university with all the supposed gifted minds around have overlooked this....
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Always plenty of room for improvement......
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Ability to manage is very key....
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thesharpone writes....
you, where in history have you seen a revolution of that size?
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This is a very interesting point that will be overcome by the internet.....
One could form changes to the equation....and change could occur in moments......in a democratic internet government......
A true democratic internet government makes the current system look like utter nonsense......
It is safe to say that the US has been badly managed.
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Of course, assembly instructions are rarely followed to the T, even when there are only two parts.
However, when a system is fatally flawed, you do not have to go down with the ship.
Just stop the ship, get on land, and build another one that is not perfect.....but is obviously better than the one you were riding in.
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thesharpone writes.....
you, where in history have you seen a revolution of that size?
besides no theory has every been implemented properly. they say we are going to implement say communism, but they only take the parts that are of benefit to their f*ing gay ass and claim to have created a communist state.
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This is interesting as I have mentioned in previous posts, countries have been mislabeled all along.....
The labels should be changed to:
Excellent Management
Good Management
Managed
Bad Management
Not Managed
Reason being is that each country works from the basics.
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Another simple example....
Many universities use the 4.0 grade system.....
So there is no differentiation between a 89 versus 80 point student.
A 5.0 system would give the student what he actually made ...an 89.....which would be a 3.9....the 80 student would be a 3.0.....
Even a stellar university with all the supposed gifted minds around have overlooked this....
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Always plenty of room for improvement......
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Ability to manage is very key....
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thesharpone writes....
you, where in history have you seen a revolution of that size?
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This is a very interesting point that will be overcome by the internet.....
One could form changes to the equation....and change could occur in moments......in a democratic internet government......
A true democratic internet government makes the current system look like utter nonsense......
It is safe to say that the US has been badly managed.
Excellent Commentary, Slider123456
Slider123456 wrote.......
There is one big difference though all forms of Marxism that I am aware of have been socialist. The state owned everything not the people. What I am saying is that the people own everything which is less socialistic than the current system where the government owns the Land and gives it to the people as it sees fit in effect artificially governing prices of land and real estate and using it as one of the prime drivers of wealth artificially.
The wealth of a country and its citizens should be based on the assets of the country instead of the faith of people in its debt. To me an economy based on the faith people have in its debt is a system which is sooner or later doomed to failure until the faith of the people can be restored so the whole system starts again unless it can be sustained long enough until wealth is distributed so lopsidedly that there is a revolution and everyone loses. I believe no system will be sustainable until it is realized that you cannot separate classes everyone in a economy is dependent on everyone else like it or not.
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I really like the idea of an ownership versus a debt society.
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You are on the mark about debt and its inevitable failure....For one thing , debt is inefficient. Noninterest, nonobligatory debt namely common stock is more efficient....with no fuse lit to the bomb....
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So let us review in a very simple way.
There will be two types of ownership.
One vote,one life, one equity owner in the local township. The township collects the local consumption tax, which is valued by population and actual revenues....
Business ownership shares, which is given to award dedication and performance.
All shares would trade on an electronic stock exchange.
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There would be no effect on individual assets in the transition period.
The new government would just start.
Slider123456 wrote.......
There is one big difference though all forms of Marxism that I am aware of have been socialist. The state owned everything not the people. What I am saying is that the people own everything which is less socialistic than the current system where the government owns the Land and gives it to the people as it sees fit in effect artificially governing prices of land and real estate and using it as one of the prime drivers of wealth artificially.
The wealth of a country and its citizens should be based on the assets of the country instead of the faith of people in its debt. To me an economy based on the faith people have in its debt is a system which is sooner or later doomed to failure until the faith of the people can be restored so the whole system starts again unless it can be sustained long enough until wealth is distributed so lopsidedly that there is a revolution and everyone loses. I believe no system will be sustainable until it is realized that you cannot separate classes everyone in a economy is dependent on everyone else like it or not.
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I really like the idea of an ownership versus a debt society.
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You are on the mark about debt and its inevitable failure....For one thing , debt is inefficient. Noninterest, nonobligatory debt namely common stock is more efficient....with no fuse lit to the bomb....
............................................................................................
So let us review in a very simple way.
There will be two types of ownership.
One vote,one life, one equity owner in the local township. The township collects the local consumption tax, which is valued by population and actual revenues....
Business ownership shares, which is given to award dedication and performance.
All shares would trade on an electronic stock exchange.
...................................................................................................
There would be no effect on individual assets in the transition period.
The new government would just start.
Quotes from daddyeaux:
Capitalism is dependent on individual responsibility.
Capitalism is dependent on weak-willed, under-educated, idealogues and politicians overlooking the lack of corporate responsibility to line their pockets with kick-backs and campaign contributions.
Democracy is dependent on vigilance.
Democracy depends on en masse blissful ignorance. It fails when the populace finds they're too complacent to do anything about being used, abused, and lied to.
Marxism is dependent on surrender of the masses.
Precisely what we're on about. It's called Anarcho-Capitalism, and it's here to stay.
Capitalism is dependent on individual responsibility.
Capitalism is dependent on weak-willed, under-educated, idealogues and politicians overlooking the lack of corporate responsibility to line their pockets with kick-backs and campaign contributions.
Democracy is dependent on vigilance.
Democracy depends on en masse blissful ignorance. It fails when the populace finds they're too complacent to do anything about being used, abused, and lied to.
Marxism is dependent on surrender of the masses.
Precisely what we're on about. It's called Anarcho-Capitalism, and it's here to stay.
The other big problem which libertad has stated is the way campaigns are carried out and major campaign reforms with a focus on internet type disclosures being the focus being the best solution. Setup computer voter education centers for people who cannot afford a internet connection or computer. The problem with the T.V. based dispersion of political info is that it invariably comes with the baggage and motivations of the journalist broadcast station etc whether it is done consciously or not. Most Political coverage is so far from objective that it is not funny.
Also a tweaking of the republican system is needed with a system that is more of a Democratic/Republican hybrid. When it is something that would seriously affect the population of the country it would be democratic otherwise the typical republican type of system. There needs to be a type of country where the people actually feel that their future is tied to that of the country not that the government is something that happens to them.
Also a tweaking of the republican system is needed with a system that is more of a Democratic/Republican hybrid. When it is something that would seriously affect the population of the country it would be democratic otherwise the typical republican type of system. There needs to be a type of country where the people actually feel that their future is tied to that of the country not that the government is something that happens to them.