Hundreds of refugees are identified as war criminals

[volpunter]

Did you unblock me AGAIN? No hatred brother ...only facts my friend

By the way the US did not support Germany out of selflessNess. Nobody needs to thank the US into eternity given that Germans accepted in return American military bases which the US used for its central European strategy and to hold against Russia. Please do not make it sound like another of America's gifts of salvation. It was an ice cold self serving strategy decision.

Volpunter is back pouring on anti-American and anti-Jewish hatred.

My German in-laws on both sides of the ocean greatly dislike young twerps like Volpunter. Clowns that don't appreciate that their comfortable lives are solely due to the U.S. re-building Germany after WW2. Maybe we should have turned the entire country over to the Soviets and seen how things worked out. Or perhaps the west should have followed the Morgenthau plan after WW2.

Volpunter continually slams the U.S. educational system while having come to the U.S. for his college education rather than being attending a university in Germany. I guess our colleges suck so bad he had to come here. Sadly at the same time Volpunter claims that rarely do students leave Germany for a university education - an assertion refuted by basic data.

Of course Volpunter, remains willfully ignorant that Germany has a much lower percentage of college graduates than the U.S. --- when he is not ignoring reports from the German government that low-income students in Germany are greatly under-served educationally.

Naturally Volpunter slams Jews continually while claiming that nobody should blame Germans for the Holocaust. Volpunter would have made an excellent Brownshirt in the 1930s.

 

[gwb-trading]

Did you unblock me AGAIN? No hatred brother ...only facts my friend

I never have put anyone on ignore.

YOU are always the one -- when someone points out the actual facts -- who responds with something like "Idiot. On Ignore."

I would urge that if you want to be educated about the K-12 & university systems in the both the U.S. and Germany then you go back and read my previous posts on the subject. Full of facts, figures, government data, and statistics -- and totally disproving all of your ridiculous false assertions.

 

[gwb-trading]

Did you unblock me AGAIN? No hatred brother ...only facts my friend

By the way the US did not support Germany out of selflessNess. Nobody needs to thank the US into eternity given that Germans accepted in return American military bases which the US used for its central European strategy and to hold against Russia. Please do not make it sound like another of America's gifts of salvation. It was an ice cold self serving strategy decision.

In this case the U.S. would have been better off in adopting the Morgenthau plan to "pasturize" Germany and put in a U.S. led military government to put our bases wherever we pleased as our strategy to counter the Soviets. It certainly would have been cheaper and the proper "ice cold self serving strategy decision".

You never address the Marshall plan that re-built Germany. How did the Marshall plan directly help in the U.S. military strategy?

All you demonstrate once again is your complete lack of appreciation of the sacrifices made by Americans to re-build your country. Your dismissal of the efforts that led to Germany's salvation is obscene.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

In this case the U.S. would have been better off in adopting the Morgenthau plan to "pasturize" Germany and put in a U.S. led military government to put our bases wherever we pleased as our strategy to counter the Soviets. It certainly would have been cheaper and the proper "ice cold self serving strategy decision".

You never address the Marshall plan that re-built Germany. How did the Marshall plan directly help in the U.S. military strategy?

All you demonstrate once again is your complete lack of appreciation of the sacrifices made by Americans to re-build your country. Your dismissal of the efforts that led to Germany's salvation is obscene.

Gratitude is rare in international relations. I suspect the refugees will teach germany that lesson.

 

[gwb-trading]

Gratitude is rare in international relations. I suspect the refugees will teach germany that lesson.

You would think that Germany would have already learned their lesson in their failure to integrate the numerous Turkish guest workers three generations deep into the experience.

I applaud Germany for attempting to settle 800,000 refugees but this is going to create very difficult settlement logistics and integration issues. The integration issues are especially daunting - and the Germans have experienced only failure with this over the past 50 years.

 

[volpunter]

Germany has been grateful for a long time and remains so towards the US. But the true intentions why the US had a strong interest in a prosperous post war Germany are self serving alone. Or why do you think they picked Germany and not Poland or Austria. Germany was chosen because of it's central location and because Germans were known for its hard working people wanting to improve their living standards at a faster pace than neighboring nations. There are numerous other reasons but American generosity is certainly none of them.

Gratitude is rare in international relations. I suspect the refugees will teach germany that lesson.

 

[volpunter]

Why do you think Germany took on so many refugees. I think by wide agreement Merkel is not known for being shortsighted. Nor is Germany's birth rate so low in order for Germany to act desperately. Many Germans have no idea how this is gonna work out and put their trust and hope into the leadership.

Would you not agree this to be an act of selflessNess and borne out of dire circumstances for those refugees that were already in Europe and handed from one East European nation to the next? It is a European problem and the signal that was set is a horrible one. Europe should have persuaded Turkey or should have set up a safe corridor in Syria near the Turkish border and set up a semi permanent refugee city and environment with vast amounts of funding. I agree that integrating such numbers in Germany will be a daunting task. And I don't think it will be for lack of willingness on the German part but because of an unwillingness to properly integrate on the immigrants side.

You would think that Germany would have already learned their lesson in their failure to integrate the numerous Turkish guest workers three generations deep into the experience.

I applaud Germany for attempting to settle 800,000 refugees but this is going to create very difficult settlement logistics and integration issues. The integration issues are especially daunting - and the Germans have experienced only failure with this over the past 50 years.

 

[gwb-trading]

Why do you think Germany took on so many refugees. I think by wide agreement Merkel is not known for being shortsighted. Nor is Germany's birth rate so low in order for Germany to act desperately. Many Germans have no idea how this is gonna work out and put their trust and hope into the leadership.

Would you not agree this to be an act of selflessNess and borne out of dire circumstances for those refugees that were already in Europe and handed from one East European nation to the next? It is a European problem and the signal that was set is a horrible one. Europe should have persuaded Turkey or should have set up a safe corridor in Syria near the Turkish border and set up a semi permanent refugee city and environment with vast amounts of funding. I agree that integrating such numbers in Germany will be a daunting task. And I don't think it will be for lack of willingness on the German part but because of an unwillingness to properly integrate on the immigrants side.

I support Germany's difficult decision in regards to the Syrian refugees. I can understand the concerns of the German population including if terrorists/militants are mixed in with the refugees, and that many "refugees" are actually economic immigrants from other countries.

The lack of a coordinated approach across nations to deal with the Syrian refugee crisis has been painful. Most of the burden has fallen on Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. These nations have done their best with limited financial support to house & feed hundreds of thousands Syrian refugees. The wealthy gulf states have taken in no refugees and have not lifted a finger to help.

Actually taking in refugees in Germany, which is facing future demographic issues, is a wise decision from a "big picture" perspective -- assuming that integration can be performed in the long term.

I don't disagree with your comment above... it will be interesting to see how things work out over the upcoming months.

 

[volpunter]

Fully concur with your assessment.

In addition I think Europe should have acted more in unison and rather should have supported humanitarian efforts financially and with other resources and knowhow in Turkey and Syria and Jordan.

Germany is only recently seeing the glimpse of the payoff from its effort to integrate Turks in Germany. I think everyone agrees that it's easier to settle Europeans in Europe than those of very different religious and ethnic origin. So...it will be a daunting task. I also hope Germany has learnt from its past mistakes of integration

I support Germany's difficult decision in regards to the Syrian refugees. I can understand the concerns of the German population including if terrorists/militants are mixed in with the refugees, and that many "refugees" are actually economic immigrants from other countries.

The lack of a coordinated approach across nations to deal with the Syrian refugee crisis has been painful. Most of the burden has fallen on Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. These nations have done their best with limited financial support to house & feed hundreds of thousands Syrian refugees. The wealthy gulf states have taken in no refugees and have not lifted a finger to help.

Actually taking in refugees in Germany, which is facing future demographic issues, is a wise decision from a "big picture" perspective -- assuming that integration can be performed in the long term.

I don't disagree with your comment above... it will be interesting to see how things work out over the upcoming months.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

gwb, wouldn't it be feasible to resettle most of them in New Jersey to replace the millions of jersey refugees who migrated to Cary? Newark is full of bombed out buildings, so they would feel at home.