Hundreds of refugees are identified as war criminals

it has nothing to do with superiority, unless of course you are suffering from an inferiority complex. It has to do with doing the morally right thing. Should Germany have closed the borders like several East European countries? Then what? Let women and children die in front? Please drop your political convictions for a second and suggest what you would have done in that specific situation.
Yes, that's exactly what they should have done. Sheltered, fed and clothed the migrants, then deported them back to their place of origin. Most of the migrants are not women and children. Again, that's Eurostat. Most are young and middle aged men. The media overwhelmingly photograph women and children for dramatic effect.

400,000 are slated for deportation, just from those that immigrated in the first half of 2015. Certainly hundreds of thousands of more will be deported, thereafter.

As far as the morality of it all. Europe and America don't owe anybody shit. These immigrants are not owed shit from anyone. That's number one. Two, most of them are liars, faking Syrian citizenship. Nor are they refugees fleeing war. Most of them are economic migrants who originate from peaceful countries, and skip through peaceful EU countries to land in the heavy welfare states of northern Europe. They are liars trying to get on welfare.

Those are just the facts. Now if somebody told me they wanted to import hundreds of thousands of third-world immigrants who intentionally lied about their nationality to get on welfare in my country, I would tell them to walk off a cliff. That's the height of stupidity. All you're doing is importing a costly financial and social tax. If there's a way to validate the education and skill set of these migrants and who pose no threat to the country, I don't have a problem with them staying and CONTRIBUTING. Other than that, no fucking way.

You keep bringing up Germany. Every person has a right to voice their opinion, nationality aside. How many times have you weighed in on threads debating American policy? Should you take your own advice and STFU when it comes to anything outside of German politics? This migration is a global problem. Each country is entitled to deal with it as they see fit, and the European political leadership appear, for now, to be totally out of step with what their citizens want.

Trump will send them all back. God bless him. If Germany had any balls, they'd throw that stupid bitch out and then the migrants. Most of these people are scumbags. Look at all the rapes, violence, looting, rioting and general corpulence in the camps. Few of these people will 'add' anything to Germany. Only take away.

Last, the security risk. That's original topic of this thread. Go back and look at the twitter pictures posted in this thread. Islamic terrorists are sneaking into Europe until the false claim of refugee status. By opening our doors to anyone with no security and background check at all, we are opening our collective asses to ISIS who wants to fuck us. That's also a fact. But you want to love them all to death, because you're a Liberal.

The world is the way it is because the human heart is evil. Two wrongs don't make a right. We don't import millions of third-world bums and terrorists to make up for NATO's involvement in the Middle East. That is pure stupidity. Cutting off the nose to spit the face. Shooting ourselves in the foot out of penance. "White guilt". This is illogical Liberal crap. What we need to do is elect responsible leadership who don't start wars, and get our own houses in order. Not sink the ship with a bunch of parasites who hate white people because 'we deserve it'.
 
So regardless of whether it was a man, woman, or child, if even just a few would face near certain death if deported back to where they came from, you would still go ahead with your plan to deport EVERYONE?

And aside that question, you evade my earlier question: Are you German, hold a German passport and are granted German voting rights? Because if not do you respect that nations have sovereign rights? You can complain as much as you like fact remains it is the sovereign right of Germany to open its borders and at least assess the true status of the arriving people rather than leaving them out there. By the way it is 5 degrees Celsius in Munich right now, you are saying you want to have a few hundred thousand people camp under open sky exactly where? Outside of Germany? So in Austria? Not Austria? So Slovakia? Not Slovakia? So Hungary? Not Hungary, so where exactly?

Your political convictions are one thing but there are realities and life, my friend, and you can't just ignore realities.

P.S.: So when Germany threw out the "Greek bitch" you and your brethren all cried out loud and pointed fingers to Germany, likened it to the Third Reich, Hitler pictures were put up and the Swastika was flying high. Now you want to apply different standards? Seems outright bizarre...

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"We don't import millions of third-world bums and terrorists to make up for NATO's involvement in the Middle East. That is pure stupidity. Cutting off the nose to spit the face. Shooting ourselves in the foot out of penance. "White guilt". This is illogical Liberal crap. What we need to do is elect responsible leadership who don't start wars, and get our own houses in order. Not sink the ship with a bunch of parasites who hate white people because 'we deserve it'."

I thought you said you are entitled to your opinion. That is perfectly fine, but it is certainly not "we" as you are not involved nor tangent. So please feel free to voice your opinion but make it clear its you being a bystander, outsider.

Yes, that's exactly what they should have done. Sheltered, fed and clothed the migrants, then deported them back to their place of origin. Most of the migrants are not women and children. Again, that's Eurostat. Most are young and middle aged men. The media overwhelmingly photograph women and children for dramatic effect.

400,000 are slated for deportation, just from those that immigrated in the first half of 2015. Certainly hundreds of thousands of more will be deported, thereafter.

As far as the morality of it all. Europe and America don't owe anybody shit. These immigrants are not owed shit from anyone. That's number one. Two, most of them are liars, faking Syrian citizenship. Nor are they refugees fleeing war. Most of them are economic migrants who originate from peaceful countries, and skip through peaceful EU countries to land in the heavy welfare states of northern Europe. They are liars trying to get on welfare.

Those are just the facts. Now if somebody told me they wanted to import hundreds of thousands of third-world immigrants who intentionally lied about their nationality to get on welfare in my country, I would tell them to walk off a cliff. That's the height of stupidity. All you're doing is importing a costly financial and social tax. If there's a way to validate the education and skill set of these migrants and who pose no threat to the country, I don't have a problem with them staying and CONTRIBUTING. Other than that, no fucking way.

You keep bringing up Germany. Every person has a right to voice their opinion, nationality aside. How many times have you weighed in on threads debating American policy? Should you take your own advice and STFU when it comes to anything outside of German politics? This migration is a global problem. Each country is entitled to deal with it as they see fit, and the European political leadership appear, for now, to be totally out of step with what their citizens want.

Trump will send them all back. God bless him. If Germany had any balls, they'd throw that stupid bitch out and then the migrants. Most of these people are scumbags. Look at all the rapes, violence, looting, rioting and general corpulence in the camps. Few of these people will 'add' anything to Germany. Only take away.

Last, the security risk. That's original topic of this thread. Go back and look at the twitter pictures posted in this thread. Islamic terrorists are sneaking into Europe until the false claim of refugee status. By opening our doors to anyone with no security and background check at all, we are opening our collective asses to ISIS who wants to fuck us. That's also a fact. But you want to love them all to death, because you're a Liberal.

The world is the way it is because the human heart is evil. Two wrongs don't make a right. We don't import millions of third-world bums and terrorists to make up for NATO's involvement in the Middle East. That is pure stupidity. Cutting off the nose to spit the face. Shooting ourselves in the foot out of penance. "White guilt". This is illogical Liberal crap. What we need to do is elect responsible leadership who don't start wars, and get our own houses in order. Not sink the ship with a bunch of parasites who hate white people because 'we deserve it'.
 
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it has nothing to do with superiority, unless of course you are suffering from an inferiority complex. It has to do with doing the morally right thing. Should Germany have closed the borders like several East European countries? Then what? Let women and children die in front? Please drop your political convictions for a second and suggest what you would have done in that specific situation.

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This is freakin' hilarious. The ministry of social affairs in Bayern, Germany, reports that in 2015 36!!!! of 26000 refugees were granted asylum. The other 99.8% are illegal immigrants.

http://www.sozialministerium.bayern.de/migration/asyl/index.php


"Die Entscheidungspraxis des Bundesamtes für Migration und Flüchtlinge stellt sich für Bayern von Januar bis Ende Juni 2015 wie folgt dar:

  • 36 Personen (0,2 Prozent) wurden als Asylberechtigte im Sinne des Grundgesetzes anerkannt."

Not one has been shipped back!
 
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Muslims take over the streets carrying sticks and pipes screaming 'Allah Akbar'. The police are pissing their pants.

 
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Germany certainly has the right as a sovereign country to let in as many immigrants as they choose. i think the problem is they are demanding that other EU countries do the same. Germany may well feel it is wrong to discriminate based on religion or other factors, but other countries do not want to lose their cultural identity. We see the negative effects of losing control over your culture here on a daily basis. Some parts of the US are impossible to distinguish from mexico.

If a country wants to lose its cultural uniqueness and dilute the factors that made it what it is, then it should be done only after its citizens make a conscious decision to do so. People are not going to accept that elites make that decision for them and tell them they have to accept it or be labelled racists, etc.
 
Concur with your points, only problem is that the "elites" in the respective Eastern European nations are the ones that are scare mongering and drawing the devil on the wall to scare their people and that in no way a majority of Polish, Slovenian, Hungarian, Romanian citizens are in fact against hosting some fair share of asylum seekers. Right-wing extremists would love to gain a majority of citizens on the side against opening borders but it does not change the fact that their citizens think differently. Victor Orban of Hungary is the prime example of someone who pretends his people made the choice to close borders when in effect he is a right wing extremist and xenophobe. He is not representing the people who voted for him. That is the problem.

Germany certainly has the right as a sovereign country to let in as many immigrants as they choose. i think the problem is they are demanding that other EU countries do the same. Germany may well feel it is wrong to discriminate based on religion or other factors, but other countries do not want to lose their cultural identity. We see the negative effects of losing control over your culture here on a daily basis. Some parts of the US are impossible to distinguish from mexico.

If a country wants to lose its cultural uniqueness and dilute the factors that made it what it is, then it should be done only after its citizens make a conscious decision to do so. People are not going to accept that elites make that decision for them and tell them they have to accept it or be labelled racists, etc.
 
In democracies, we have ways of addressing that situation. Vote in new leaders who do represent the views of a majority. I have no way of knowing if you are correct or not, but here the evidence seems to be strongly that voters are fed up with uncontrolled immigration and non-enforcement of immigration laws.
 
Here is where? I thought the topic is on the situation in Central Europe...
In democracies, we have ways of addressing that situation. Vote in new leaders who do represent the views of a majority. I have no way of knowing if you are correct or not, but here the evidence seems to be strongly that voters are fed up with uncontrolled immigration and non-enforcement of immigration laws.
 
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