You should get a clue before advising people what to do. Most doctors work for other people. They dont make up the rules, they play by the rules made by people who have no clue about healthcare. Natural cures are mostly bogus. No research to back that majority of those cures work anyways. Actually lots of people die each year because they fall for marketing gimmicks of natural cure rather than use proven and tested methods.
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How would you fix the health care problem in the US?
- Thread starter Eliot Hosewater
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You should get a clue before advising people what to do. Most doctors work for other people. They dont make up the rules, they play by the rules made by people who have no clue about healthcare. Natural cures are mostly bogus. No research to back that majority of those cures work anyways. Actually lots of people die each year because they fall for marketing gimmicks of natural cure rather than use proven and tested methods.
Quote from options2001:
Actually lots of people die each year because they fall for marketing gimmicks of natural cure rather than use proven and tested methods.
Are you a house husband who is married to a DR who supports him?
"The top five causes of death in the United States, in order, are tobacco, alcohol, medical malpractice, traffic and firearms. According to JAMA, doctors kill more people than auto accidents and guns. With that in mind, one has to wonder why gun control is such a hot legislative issue when, perhaps, we should be more concerned about doctor control."
http://www.relfe.com/doctors_kill.html
Quote from Sell 'em:
Complete nationalization is the best solution, hands down. The problem here is that Americans collectively have no first-hand experience with any other system than the one currently in place, and their views are warped by an insidious campaign of misinformation by vested interests.
Be clear. VESTED INTERESTS IN THE STATUS QUO ARE ARE PIGS AT THE TROUGH, and they are fighting.
We know that hospital organizations, health care companies, insurance companies, drug companies, BUY DOCTORS AND ACADEMICS to fabricate studies and opinion pieces. The stuff Americans are hearing in the media and debates are f*cking nonsense. Listening to Americans debate their own health care system is so sad in that regard - like being forced to watch a nation drive itself off a cliff.
As an American expat for over a decade I can tell you: You can get better care, cheaper in some surprising places - almost EVERY north Asian and South Asian country offers quality health care at half the cost, or much much less. And no, it is not labor costs or legal savings. It is the common-sense government hand in providing a rational health care system.
In asian countries you can get drugs, hooker, food, houses, land, Cigarrettes, medicines and just about everything for cheaper. Your arguement makes no sense. They definetely dont get same medical care, becuz i too have been to majority of asian countries.
Quote from options2001:
I dont think im being too unfair. Sure there are a few doctors who are crooks, but 98% are not. But then again it goes with the profession. Iam reading financial history of United states right now its about 2000 pages long and bankers and politicians have been robbing the public for only about 350 years in this country now, so its nothing new. Maybe im being too pessimistic but thats just what Iam getting from reading from these history books.
This is OT, but you don't think it's possible that you are reading a biased view and you don't think you have a similarly biased view of doctors? Because there are people who will tell you that this country is filled to the gills with doctors who will perform unnecessary procedures just to rake in extra money.
Quote from Angrycat:
This is OT, but you don't think it's possible that you are reading a biased view and you don't think you have a similarly biased view of doctors? Because there are people who will tell you that this country is filled to the gills with doctors who will perform unnecessary procedures just to rake in extra money.
Personally I am sick of DR's writing scripts for antibiotics after telling you you have a viral infection. The wife and I went through 3 or 4 pediatricians for our daughter over this issue. We finally found one that doesn't think we are stupid enough to believe an antibiotic will do anything to a virus. I honestly believe that the rest were just trying to boost the kickbacks they got on writing the scripts.
Quote from Maverickz:
Personally I am sick of DR's writing scripts for antibiotics after telling you you have a viral infection. The wife and I went through 3 or 4 pediatricians for our daughter over this issue. We finally found one that doesn't think we are stupid enough to believe an antibiotic will do anything to a virus. I honestly believe that the rest were just trying to boost the kickbacks they got on writing the scripts.
This is a personal pet peeve of mine. We are beginning to have significant problems with drug resistant bacteria because of this anti-biotic over-prescription.
Quote from Angrycat:
This is a personal pet peeve of mine. We are beginning to have significant problems with drug resistant bacteria because of this anti-biotic over-prescription.
Exactly and that's one reason I feel that making kickbacks on pharmaceuticals to DR's should be outlawed as part of any plan to improve health care. Dr's should be writing scripts for what works the best, not what they get paid the most to write.
Quote from Maverickz:
Personally I am sick of DR's writing scripts for antibiotics after telling you you have a viral infection. The wife and I went through 3 or 4 pediatricians for our daughter over this issue. We finally found one that doesn't think we are stupid enough to believe an antibiotic will do anything to a virus. I honestly believe that the rest were just trying to boost the kickbacks they got on writing the scripts.
In addition to that. antibiotics kill both the good and the bad bacteria in our bodies. Often the good bacteria that are killed by these pills are replaced by infections.
After taking antibiotics, one should take probiotics for few weeks if they do not want to feel like they have been punched in the stomach.
I have not the slightest idea why conventional DRs never, in my experience, do this.
Mavrickz & AC
Viruses kill off goblet cells and cilia in the pharyngeal epithelium leaving it open to superinfection by mixed colonies of bacteria that form a bacterial B I O F I L M.
The biofilm formation can be prevented even by antibiotics like amoxicillian, but once it forms, the MIC goes up 100 to 1000 times getting rid of it at all is problematic.
BTW the little Swiss company that makes a drug that inhibits both plasmid swapping by bacteria, one main avenue of aquired drug resistance, and bacteria proton pump formation another avenue of drug resistance, last fall had approval denied by the FDA because of "records keeping problems at 7 centers".
7 out of over 500.
This drug essentially decommissions those processes that the bacteria uses to become drug resistant, and the FDA did not approve it.
On reading the published accounts of the multi-drug, multi center trial, the main comments were 'low side effect profile of drugs in the trial' and 'a three log reduction in the concentration of bacteria in MRSA biofilms.' A level of kill and safety that even Vancomycian did not achieve.
Canada approved it.
Viruses kill off goblet cells and cilia in the pharyngeal epithelium leaving it open to superinfection by mixed colonies of bacteria that form a bacterial B I O F I L M.
The biofilm formation can be prevented even by antibiotics like amoxicillian, but once it forms, the MIC goes up 100 to 1000 times getting rid of it at all is problematic.
BTW the little Swiss company that makes a drug that inhibits both plasmid swapping by bacteria, one main avenue of aquired drug resistance, and bacteria proton pump formation another avenue of drug resistance, last fall had approval denied by the FDA because of "records keeping problems at 7 centers".
7 out of over 500.
This drug essentially decommissions those processes that the bacteria uses to become drug resistant, and the FDA did not approve it.
On reading the published accounts of the multi-drug, multi center trial, the main comments were 'low side effect profile of drugs in the trial' and 'a three log reduction in the concentration of bacteria in MRSA biofilms.' A level of kill and safety that even Vancomycian did not achieve.
Canada approved it.
Quote from truehawk:
Viruses kill off goblet cells and cilia in the pharyngeal epithelium leaving it open to superinfection by mixed colonies of bacteria that form a bacterial B I O F I L M.
Wouldn't that depend on the virus?
Yeah I heard about that and it was probably denied more because of PAC's and Lobbyists influence on the FDA to not approve more competition.