Quote from vhehn:
OBAMA made a tactical error. he let insurance reform get too complicated. now those profiting from the status quo can demigog the reform with scare tactics.
Obama should have simply said he was going to expand the same plan government employees and congress has to include everyone.
Quote from Angrycat:
furthermore, you are incredibly insulting to people. You may assume that since you are too stupid to understand the terms of a contract, everyone else is as well. I assure you, the rest of the country is not that stupid.
Quote from Angrycat:
The scariest two words in the entire bill was unavoidable - "Government run".
That's all people needed to hear. Just to be clear, I think the system we have is completely screwed up - because government has long been favouring the insurance industry over consumers. So, I don't disagree with you that the current system is neither free market nor working.
medicare is a great program for the elderly consumer. it works well. so well that it is over utilized. controling costs is its only problem because every one thinks their granny should get every treatment possible in the last year of life.Quote from Angrycat:
You forgot Social Security and Medicaid (which is running at $66 Billion instead of the projected $9 billion - which makes the claim that government run health service will cost less a sad sad joke)
Quote from vhehn:
medicare is a great program for the elderly consumer. it works well. so well that it is over utilized. controling costs is its only problem because every one thinks their granny should get every treatment possible in the last year of life.
Quote from Angrycat:
You forgot Social Security and Medicaid (which is running at $66 Billion instead of the projected $9 billion - which makes the claim that government run health service will cost less a sad sad joke)
Quote from spinn:
Cut DRs pay by 75% and find a way to pay them bonuses to a) cure people and b) prevent illnesses in the first place. The good DRs will make more, the bad ones will say they deserve it because they went to med school and society owes them, while posting on ET.
Currently, DRs are paid more if their patients are unhealthy and even more than that if the DR prescribes medications which do not work....or make the patient sicker.
Quote from Angrycat:
1.) remove state mandates which drive up the cost of insurance and limit choice.
2.) Remove the prohibition on buying insurance from other states. This prohibition also creates the "pre-existing condition" issue because moving to a neighbouring state constitutes a break in coverage because of the state regulations.
3.) Remove most insurance regulation - they mostly serve to decrease competition for insurance providers and doctors and to raise costs and lower choice for consumers.
4.) Let Walgreens and Walmart set up more clinics where simple inexpensive screenings can be performed by less expensive nurse practitioners and expensive doctors' time will only be occupied when a problem is discovered.
All of these things will increase choice and decrease costs.
4.) Then, give people who are truly poor and qualify for public assistance health care vouchers so that they may choose a private, competitive insurance plan they like and aren't obligated to churn through the humiliating government medicare.
In other words, give health care choice back to the people who consume health care services instead of enslaving the population to the state.
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:
No skilled DR would ever participate in the kind of system. The would simply ignore it and demand cash before any treatment.