How valid is this edge?

Quote from shainadir:

People are always writing about needing an "edge" to become a successful trader...

I have come across an edge that I did not create but I do believe it will work.

There are some stocks (ARO for example) that consistently give a 1-2% spike in price from the opening price on Monday. I'm not saying that from the beginning of the week to the end on Friday that the price increase is 1-2%..What I'm saying is that sometime during the week, the stock will have a 1-2% gain in price from the opening on Monday. For example, during this past week on Monday, ARO opened at 36.12..it finished the week at 35.09 but on Tuesday it reached a high of 37.18. I have gone over the charts on ARO for the past year and in 95% of the weeks this statistic held true.

My strategy is to buy at the open on Monday and set a sell limit at when the price increases by 1.5%. Is this a legit strategy or am I missing something? All comments will be appreciated.

stop bothering... there is zero edge in this.
 
Quote from dozu888:

stop bothering... there is zero edge in this.

If you were to purchase ARO at the open on every Monday for the past year, the gains at sometime during the week were as follows- 1/2% 52/52 weeks, 1% 51/52 weeks, and 2% 45/52 weeks. Even with slippage, if you were to buy at the open on Monday and put a sell stop at 1%, the chances of a win based on past results would be at a minimum of 85%. Why is this not an edge? Isnt TA just a study of past performance to predict future performance?

As far as risk management goes, I plan on purchasing a total of 300 shares with 100 at open and the rest on dips. If the market turns, than I will put a stop at 1% from my lowest purchase point.

What are other ways that I can manage my risk?
 
Quote from shainadir:
My strategy is to......
1) Be willing to act on your own ideas/methods.
2) ARO has trended higher since December-2008. You may be mesmerized by that performance when your strategy should have done "well". You may be minimizing the downturn from September-2008 to December-2008 when you may have experienced consistent losses.
3) I would be slightly concerned that you are adding-on to losing positions with your entry. :cool:
 
Quote from nazzdack:

1) Be willing to act on your own ideas/methods.
2) ARO has trended higher since December-2008. You may be mesmerized by that performance when your strategy should have done "well". You may be minimizing the downturn from September-2008 to December-2008 when you may have experienced consistent losses.
3) I would be slightly concerned that you are adding-on to losing positions with your entry. :cool:

Please read my entire entry, my data is from 6/08 to 6/09. During the down months, ARO still made the weekly gains.

As for ARO, I am not putting all my eggs into one basket. I'm just using it as an example. There are other options both long and short that I have found using the same screener with similar results for the past 52 weeks. Take a look at DVN for short sales.
 
Quote from shainadir:

People are always writing about needing an "edge" to become a successful trader...

I have come across an edge that I did not create but I do believe it will work.

There are some stocks (ARO for example) that consistently give a 1-2% spike in price from the opening price on Monday. I'm not saying that from the beginning of the week to the end on Friday that the price increase is 1-2%..What I'm saying is that sometime during the week, the stock will have a 1-2% gain in price from the opening on Monday. For example, during this past week on Monday, ARO opened at 36.12..it finished the week at 35.09 but on Tuesday it reached a high of 37.18. I have gone over the charts on ARO for the past year and in 95% of the weeks this statistic held true.

My strategy is to buy at the open on Monday and set a sell limit at when the price increases by 1.5%. Is this a legit strategy or am I missing something? All comments will be appreciated.

You're confusing brains with a bull market.

This 6-month rally is not necessarily indicative of future macro-trends.

Yes, long-term market bias is up. Whether that continues unabated (see the 1990's Japanese Nikkei) is questionable. We could have another 5 month decline given recent numbers, then what of your strategy then?

The Golden Age of buy-and-hold is gone. Decades of Fed-induced asset inflation is coming to a head where consistent appreciation in the market or real estate will be a thing of the past. Unless, of course, the dollar collapses and we get hyper-inflation. In that case, yea, the strategy will work great! Too bad, you won't be able to buy the paper its printed on for the money it makes..

Bottom line, no, you don't have an edge. Keep looking.
 
Quote from achilles28:

You're confusing brains with a bull market.

This 6-month rally is not necessarily indicative of future macro-trends.

Yes, long-term market bias is up. Whether that continues unabated (see the 1990's Japanese Nikkei) is questionable. We could have another 5 month decline given recent numbers, then what of your strategy then?

The Golden Age of buy-and-hold is gone. Decades of Fed-induced asset inflation is coming to a head where consistent appreciation in the market or real estate will be a thing of the past. Unless, of course, the dollar collapses and we get hyper-inflation. In that case, yea, the strategy will work great! Too bad, you won't be able to buy the paper its printed on for the money it makes..

Bottom line, no, you don't have an edge. Keep looking.

Please read my original post...I am not buying and holding. My trades will last a few days at most. Again, I used ARO as an example for days when the market has an upside, I have short options as well.
 
Quote from shainadir:
Buy when the market opens....but depending on how futures look.....I may go short or long.
You've done all this "research" but yet you're still undecided. :eek:
 
Quote from shainadir:
My strategy is to buy at the open on Monday and set a sell limit at when the price increases by 1.5%.
The 1.5% "goal" can easily be met if the stock fluctuates that much each day. The "problem" becomes if your loss limit is a lot farther away than 1.5%. :)
 
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