How Trump's 'Soviet-style' coal directive would upend power markets

[dozu888]

Listen, I'm sure you have some expertise in something. But it's clearly not this. Look around, it's grownups having a grownup conversation on a subject that's obviously way over your head to which you're not only not adding value but destroying it. If you're interested in learning about it rather than parroting simplistic talking points that you heard in your echo chamber, I'm sure we're all happy to help you learn. Otherwise run along back to wherever you came from and let those of us who know what we're talking about continue our conversation.

The industry can let a simple CO2 scam penetrate this deep, makes people wonder how much independent thinking skills and backbone the group has... so come off your high horse.. The reality is you fell victim to the politicians pushing a money grabbing agenda. You still don't get a simple logical argument that coal is basically getting the same treatment that renewables have been getting.

 

[bone]

Out of curiosity how did you deal with something like that in the days before DR? Presumably you didn't have that much on reserve, did it take long enough to spin down you could call up what I presume was a good portion of the gas capacity or did we just have more brownouts back then?

Yeah this was in the '90's.

I had 400 MW of spin in the system. In the summer that could be 200 MW. As I spun down I'd turn on my own peakers and buy emergency power - usually from AEP. I would also have to rapidly assess the nature and estimated length of the outage and buy make-up power pronto before the marketers got wind of anything. In fact, I'd usually run over a marketer if I could - Enron hated my guts.

 

[Sig]

Yeah this was in the '90's.

I had 400 MW of spin in the system. In the summer that could be 200 MW. As I spun down I'd turn on my own peakers and buy emergency power - usually from AEP. I would also have to rapidly assess the nature and estimated length of the outage and buy make-up power pronto before the marketers got wind of anything. In fact, I'd usually run over a marketer if I could - Enron hated my guts.

If you rolled Enron good on ya! I got to experience the rolling blackouts they caused in CA with their shenanigans purposely taking plants offline. Bastards managed to set the industry back a decade at least.