How to split partnership for a CTA firm

Quote from chinook:

We don't need a huge amount to start with. $500k-1M would be a good start.

OK, let's split the difference, and say 750k. I think you said you were working on a 2/20 arrangement. So, 2% of 750k is 15k. Say you hit your target and make a 20% return for your clients, that would be 150k, for which you would receive 20%, or 30k. So, at year end you and your partner have earned a combined gross income of 45k. Subtract your expenses, and you two would be better off asking people if they would like to super-size that order.
 
Quote from trendy:

OK, let's split the difference, and say 750k. I think you said you were working on a 2/20 arrangement. So, 2% of 750k is 15k. Say you hit your target and make a 20% return for your clients, that would be 150k, for which you would receive 20%, or 30k. So, at year end you and your partner have earned a combined gross income of 45k. Subtract your expenses, and you two would be better off asking people if they would like to super-size that order.

LOL !
Too true.

But to be fair to the OP, the fund management business, like any business, takes time to build up.
 
Quote from trendy:

OK, let's split the difference, and say 750k. I think you said you were working on a 2/20 arrangement. So, 2% of 750k is 15k. Say you hit your target and make a 20% return for your clients, that would be 150k, for which you would receive 20%, or 30k. So, at year end you and your partner have earned a combined gross income of 45k. Subtract your expenses, and you two would be better off asking people if they would like to super-size that order.

Ahh ... the static thinker that believes that businesses don't grow ... lol.

Nothing wrong with not making anything the first year or as you say "would-you-like-to-super-size-that-order" money. Three or four years down the road when he's managing thirty or forty million (or more) the numbers can be quite real. Hey Bernie Madoff attracted a good deal of capital at less than 20% returns.

He wants to manage money. He has a potential partner that says he can raise $1,000,000 for him. This is not a deal that requires a great deal of thought.
 
Quote from Swan Noir:

Nothing wrong with not making anything the first year or as you say "would-you-like-to-super-size-that-order" money. Three or four years down the road when he's managing thirty or forty million (or more) the numbers can be quite real. [/B]

Going from 0 to $40,000,000 in a few years is total fantasy land.

I would certainly not cut the guy in as a 50/50 partner for the life of the fund, that would be insane.
You should work a deal with him for a % of any profits for a limited time, no partnership and then after that time you can renegotiate a new deal or hire him as a consultant.
This isn't exactly complex.
 
Quote from jdeezero05:

Going from 0 to $40,000,000 in a few years is total fantasy land.

I would certainly not cut the guy in as a 50/50 partner for the life of the fund, that would be insane.
You should work a deal with him for a % of any profits for a limited time, no partnership and then after that time you can renegotiate a new deal or hire him as a consultant.
This isn't exactly complex.

You think the OP should not be happy to have this guy as a partner?
 
Quote from jdeezero05:

Going from 0 to $40,000,000 in a few years is total fantasy land.

I would certainly not cut the guy in as a 50/50 partner for the life of the fund, that would be insane.
You should work a deal with him for a % of any profits for a limited time, no partnership and then after that time you can renegotiate a new deal or hire him as a consultant.
This isn't exactly complex.

I agree that it's definitely not easy going from 0 to $40,000,000 in a few years. However, I've seen it done --- the fund I worked at did those exact numbers in 1.5 years.
 
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