How to reduce latency for trading in China for DAS trader?

virtusa said:
In the middle of nowhere.

The large majority does not need starlink.
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When the satellites start talking to each other by laser in a vacuum then every trading house in the world will be sending orders by it as it will be quicker than fibre.
 
Thx for your advice. I discuss it here is to get some experience who already done the test. Although I am still testing these platforms and I will feedback to share with all.

maxinger said:
chart lag / freeze problem

there are two possible causes :

1. Lousy internet
Then change the ISP

2. Lousy charting software.
Some software uses a higher level of security and ended up lagging / freezing problem.
Some software is simply poorly coded.

I tried various software before.
some freezes for almost half an hour during the opening without fail (this company is still around!),
some freezes when there is heavy traffic especially during the opening,
some never freeze.

So go and evaluate various charting software.


Trading platform

as above, some of them are very slow with thousands of disconnects.
some use tons of computer power.
some are very fast but you have to pay for the platform

Go and evaluate the various platforms.




No particular recommendation as I don't reside in China.
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circ7e said:
Dear All, I believe someone else also has this issue and I try to solve it and discuss it with you guys. I hope you can share some experience, thanks very much.

Problems:
I wish to use DAS, there are these issues:
1.The latency is around 250ms-300ms depends on time and condition.
2.The chart lag or freeze for one to nine minutes, especially for symbols that were traded in large volume when it volatile, such as the market open.
3.The order server seems much better than the quote server. Delay is not so obvious.

Background Info:
1. Location: Hangzhou, China.
2. Local networks seem OK, 500MB bandwidth.
3. I consider using DAS trader, Sterling Trader Pro, IB TradeWorkStation.
4. Manually high frequency, 100+ trades per day. I will switch to machine trading in few months, but now I still need to test and improve my strategy manually.
5. Precision execution is quite important for me. So hotkey and latency are important for me.
6. I had consulted with Das trader, their server all in the US, and sterling may have servers in Asia.

Possible Solutions:
1. Setup a VPS and run DAS in VPS, then remote control to place an order. It can solve the charting delay issue. The risks are:
1.1. If lost remote control connection, reconnect takes few mins, at least 1-3 mins based on my test.
1.2 Remote control and place order in remote machine operation lags also, it will slow down the order placing process, especially when I need to revise the price many times.
2. Run DAS in my local machine and only use level 1 data, use other charing software to get real-time data, then use hotkey to revise price quickly. Only use DAS to execute orders.

Question:
1. Which platform is suitable for my situation?
2. How do you solve the latency and lag problem for DAS trader if you are outside US, especially in China?
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I speculate solution #1 may work. But to solve the uptime consistency, i think there are things you can tweak over your remote server to reduce data transmission.

For solution #2, it will still be an issue. Based on what i've tested, the delay doesn't only happen to the chart, but also to the order being sent to their server. Like the example i've posted in my original thread, i once experienced an order being sent, accepted and filled, all happened at the same time after being delayed for about 1 minute.

It appears that Starlink is going to be available for me on next year. So i'm going to give it a try. I hope they'll cover your area too. GL
 
circ7e said:
Dear All, I believe someone else also has this issue and I try to solve it and discuss it with you guys. I hope you can share some experience, thanks very much.

Problems:
I wish to use DAS, there are these issues:
1.The latency is around 250ms-300ms depends on time and condition.
2.The chart lag or freeze for one to nine minutes, especially for symbols that were traded in large volume when it volatile, such as the market open.
3.The order server seems much better than the quote server. Delay is not so obvious.

Background Info:
1. Location: Hangzhou, China.
2. Local networks seem OK, 500MB bandwidth.
3. I consider using DAS trader, Sterling Trader Pro, IB TradeWorkStation.
4. Manually high frequency, 100+ trades per day. I will switch to machine trading in few months, but now I still need to test and improve my strategy manually.
5. Precision execution is quite important for me. So hotkey and latency are important for me.
6. I had consulted with Das trader, their server all in the US, and sterling may have servers in Asia.

Possible Solutions:
1. Setup a VPS and run DAS in VPS, then remote control to place an order. It can solve the charting delay issue. The risks are:
1.1. If lost remote control connection, reconnect takes few mins, at least 1-3 mins based on my test.
1.2 Remote control and place order in remote machine operation lags also, it will slow down the order placing process, especially when I need to revise the price many times.
2. Run DAS in my local machine and only use level 1 data, use other charing software to get real-time data, then use hotkey to revise price quickly. Only use DAS to execute orders.

Question:
1. Which platform is suitable for my situation?
2. How do you solve the latency and lag problem for DAS trader if you are outside US, especially in China?
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I believe Das Trader servers are in New Jersey. I can let you test on our NY VPS to see if it works for you. I'd expect the latency to be ~20ms.

If Das Trader has servers in Chicago, our Chicago VPS is <1ms.
  • 99.9999% uptime, designed for running critical applications 24/7
Let me know if you are interested in a free test server.
 
The most effective way to reduce latency is by strategically positioning your trading systems.

Geography is a major factor in latency—regardless of how fast your network or computer is, the further away you are from the exchange, the higher your latency will be.

We offer services in both Chicago and New York, and you should not experience any latency more than 15-20ms from either.
 
QuantVPS said:
The most effective way to reduce latency is by strategically positioning your trading systems.

Geography is a major factor in latency—regardless of how fast your network or computer is, the further away you are from the exchange, the higher your latency will be.

We offer services in both Chicago and New York, and you should not experience any latency more than 15-20ms from either.
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What HFT software can we run to take advantage of this super 15-20ms speed arb
 
traider said:
What HFT software can we run to take advantage of this super 15-20ms speed arb
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For futures, you can use NinjaTrader in our Chicago data center.
 
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