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How To Read Channels
- Thread starter elovemer
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i'll do my best to answer your questions. if you have any more questions feel free.
i don't have a trading system based around channels.
i use range and fibs for entries and exits.
if you wanted to traded solely based on channels....
i would say ... wait for a pullback on a swing time frame in an uptrend
..for example one hour chart or two hour chart.
when the pullback amount is comparable to previous swing pullbacks.
..wait for a big bounce which looks like the trend has returned and the pullback is over.
when it runs out of steam to the upside... draw a TL above... sloping down
that gives you two points... 1st and 3rd.
...your 2nd point is the low of the pullback
now you have 3 points and you can draw you channel.
this is a down channel in an uptrend
now you attempt to go long on a drop to centerline... or 50 %... center line of the channel
your stop would be somewhere below the 50% line
your target is the upper wall of the channel...
if it breaks thru the upper wall, then you can attempt to ride a return to the trend... where your profit target would new trend highs
if it can't, then it could easily make a new lower swing low
but if it reaches the upper wall, you have moved your stop up accordingly
in a down channel, your trendline points are on top
in an up channel, your trendline points are on bottom
if you need an up channel, and you only have points below..
in other words a lower low with a bounce in between...
you can use a pitchfork... not a channel
what do i use these for ?
i use these to try to pinpoint the end of a swing turn
that is.... using three points in a minor down trend to get point 4 for a return to major up trend
... and vice versa for a major down trend
... although i find they work better to pinpoint a return to an up trend
having said that.... i base entries and exits on range expansion limits and fibs... as i said already.
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reminder...
higher lows, you can draw an up channel if you have 3 points
lower highs , you can draw a down channel if yo have 3 points
lower lows, you can draw a pitchfork upwards
higher highs, you can draw a pitchfork downwards
my meaning is that these conditions give you the most reliable channels and forks
any other questions... feel free
i don't have a trading system based around channels.
i use range and fibs for entries and exits.
if you wanted to traded solely based on channels....
i would say ... wait for a pullback on a swing time frame in an uptrend
..for example one hour chart or two hour chart.
when the pullback amount is comparable to previous swing pullbacks.
..wait for a big bounce which looks like the trend has returned and the pullback is over.
when it runs out of steam to the upside... draw a TL above... sloping down
that gives you two points... 1st and 3rd.
...your 2nd point is the low of the pullback
now you have 3 points and you can draw you channel.
this is a down channel in an uptrend
now you attempt to go long on a drop to centerline... or 50 %... center line of the channel
your stop would be somewhere below the 50% line
your target is the upper wall of the channel...
if it breaks thru the upper wall, then you can attempt to ride a return to the trend... where your profit target would new trend highs
if it can't, then it could easily make a new lower swing low
but if it reaches the upper wall, you have moved your stop up accordingly
in a down channel, your trendline points are on top
in an up channel, your trendline points are on bottom
if you need an up channel, and you only have points below..
in other words a lower low with a bounce in between...
you can use a pitchfork... not a channel
what do i use these for ?
i use these to try to pinpoint the end of a swing turn
that is.... using three points in a minor down trend to get point 4 for a return to major up trend
... and vice versa for a major down trend
... although i find they work better to pinpoint a return to an up trend
having said that.... i base entries and exits on range expansion limits and fibs... as i said already.
---------------------------------------------------------
reminder...
higher lows, you can draw an up channel if you have 3 points
lower highs , you can draw a down channel if yo have 3 points
lower lows, you can draw a pitchfork upwards
higher highs, you can draw a pitchfork downwards
my meaning is that these conditions give you the most reliable channels and forks
any other questions... feel free
Quote from speedtrader88:
Hi,
I am very impressed with your charts...
But how exactly do you TRADE IT??
What are your rules?
If u long on lower up channel? where is your SL and TP for example?
Do you trade with these channels? Or are you just drawing channels for fun?
Thanks and Regards,
speedtrader
Quote from elovemer:
i'll do my best to answer your questions. if you have any more questions feel free.
i don't have a trading system based around channels.
i use range and fibs for entries and exits.
if you wanted to traded solely based on channels....
i would say ... wait for a pullback on a swing time frame in an uptrend
..for example one hour chart or two hour chart.
when the pullback amount is comparable to previous swing pullbacks.
..wait for a big bounce which looks like the trend has returned and the pullback is over.
when it runs out of steam to the upside... draw a TL above... sloping down
that gives you two points... 1st and 3rd.
...your 2nd point is the low of the pullback
now you have 3 points and you can draw you channel.
this is a down channel in an uptrend
now you attempt to go long on a drop to centerline... or 50 %... center line of the channel
your stop would be somewhere below the 50% line
your target is the upper wall of the channel...
if it breaks thru the upper wall, then you can attempt to ride a return to the trend... where your profit target would new trend highs
if it can't, then it could easily make a new lower swing low
but if it reaches the upper wall, you have moved your stop up accordingly
in a down channel, your trendline points are on top
in an up channel, your trendline points are on bottom
if you need an up channel, and you only have points below..
in other words a lower low with a bounce in between...
you can use a pitchfork... not a channel
what do i use these for ?
i use these to try to pinpoint the end of a swing turn
that is.... using three points in a minor down trend to get point 4 for a return to major up trend
... and vice versa for a major down trend
... although i find they work better to pinpoint a return to an up trend
having said that.... i base entries and exits on range expansion limits and fibs... as i said already.
---------------------------------------------------------
reminder...
higher lows, you can draw an up channel if you have 3 points
lower highs , you can draw a down channel if yo have 3 points
lower lows, you can draw a pitchfork upwards
higher highs, you can draw a pitchfork downwards
my meaning is that these conditions give you the most reliable channels and forks
any other questions... feel free
Thanks for your reply.
I am still a little confused about which 3 points to choose.
In an uptrend, meaning there are higher highs and higher lows, are u saying that u take 2 LOWS to make a trendline, and then draw another parallel line to the highs? I use the 2 HIGHS for an uptrend to make a trendline, and then parallel it to the low. For a downtrend, i use the 2 LOWS to make a trendline, and then parallel it to the high. Is this the wrong way?
Channels are very powerful, but the key is to know what exactly are the RULES TO GET THE 3 CONNECTING POINTS.
I also use pitchforks, 50% channel retracements, 50% channel extensions, and drawing trendlines connecting HIGHS to LOWS. I find that example going short on an upper channel gives the best risk reward trade, however I am still unable to create a system out of it.
Cheers
in an uptrend.
you take the first two lows... connect them
the third point occurs between those two points... on the top
in a downtrend
you take the first two highs... connect them
the third point occurs between those two points... on the bottom
nothing is right or wrong in trading... if you can make money with it.
....having said that, Jimi Hendrix forms his channels this way ... and we all know how well he plays guitar
for myself ... i definitely consider this to be superior to the way you are describing.
but like i said... nothing is right or wrong if you are making money.
you take the first two lows... connect them
the third point occurs between those two points... on the top
in a downtrend
you take the first two highs... connect them
the third point occurs between those two points... on the bottom
nothing is right or wrong in trading... if you can make money with it.
....having said that, Jimi Hendrix forms his channels this way ... and we all know how well he plays guitar
for myself ... i definitely consider this to be superior to the way you are describing.
but like i said... nothing is right or wrong if you are making money.
Quote from speedtrader88:
Thanks for your reply.
I am still a little confused about which 3 points to choose.
In an uptrend, meaning there are higher highs and higher lows, are u saying that u take 2 LOWS to make a trendline, and then draw another parallel line to the highs?
I use the 2 HIGHS for an uptrend to make a trendline, and then parallel it to the low.
For a downtrend, i use the 2 LOWS to make a trendline, and then parallel it to the high.
Is this the wrong way?
Cheers