I am driving at the point that all people who have the capacity of beliefs hold beliefs (despite their denial to the contrary). The genuine agnostic holds a belief that he can't form a belief.
However, if someone claims to hold a belief, it cannot be known if they actually hold the belief they claim to hold.
There is no proof.
So it is proven that real things, like beliefs, can and do exist without a way to prove that they actually do exist for any particular person...
So the genuine atheist, the genuine theist, and the genuine agnostic all hold beliefs that are beyond proof...
Why one would then believe their proof-less position is superior to another is illogical...
However, if someone claims to hold a belief, it cannot be known if they actually hold the belief they claim to hold.
There is no proof.
So it is proven that real things, like beliefs, can and do exist without a way to prove that they actually do exist for any particular person...
So the genuine atheist, the genuine theist, and the genuine agnostic all hold beliefs that are beyond proof...
Why one would then believe their proof-less position is superior to another is illogical...
Quote from omegapoint:
That the Belief is true or not is the 64 thousand dollar question but that someone holds a belief isn't a thing that can be proven. Now you may suspect someone is misrepresenting their beliefs and when they go home at night does the opposite of what they advocate here. That disingenuousness would make them to my way of thinking a goofball entertaining themselves with wasting other peoples time. Is that what your'e driving at?