How to make an Atheists head explode.

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

An infinite number of Gods is illogical, if you clearly understand what God is, and isn't...

Read some Maimonides...

From an epistemological standpoint, a statement like “God is powerful” is objectionable in so far as it implies that we have insight into the essence of God. The advantage of the negative formulation is that it implies nothing of the sort. To say that God does not lack power or possess it in a way comparable to other things is to say that God's power is beyond our comprehension. And similarly for God's life, wisdom, unity, or will. Thus most of the terms we use to describe God are completely equivocal as between God and us. There is then no reason to think that every time we praise God, we are identifying a separate part of the divine persona and comparing it to something else.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maimonides/

It all begins with a proper understanding of what God is...

...and you won't find that understanding easily and without effort.

why don't you just answer the simple question..

what evidence would shake your certainty of belief in YOUR omnipotently endowed god?

If there is NOTHING, NOT ONE THING, that can shake your belief, than it is nothing more than just that.. belief.

look up "belief" :eek:

 

[OPTIONAL777]

There is no evidence for non God, so no evidence is going to change logical truths...

I am sorry you don't understand the issues, you wouldn't last a minute in an in depth discussion, perhaps you lack the brain cells longshot, but you are so out of your element when it comes to deeper levels of discourse that all you do is embarrass yourself further...

So use some more emoticons, continue to play the clown, the act is tired but somehow you are unable to evolve out of it...

Quote from killthesunshine:

why don't you just answer the simple question..

what evidence would shake your certainty of belief in YOUR omnipotently endowed god?

If there is NOTHING, NOT ONE THING, that can shake your belief, than it is nothing more than just that.. belief.

look up "belief" :eek:

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

There is no evidence for non God, so no evidence is going to change logical truths...

I am sorry you don't understand the issues, you wouldn't last a minute in an in depth discussion, perhaps you lack the brain cells longshot, but you are so out of your element when it comes to deeper levels of discourse that all you do is embarrass yourself further...

So use some more emoticons, continue to play the clown, the act is tired but somehow you are unable to evolve out of it...

every issue has its sides.. evidence for and against.

what is the evidence against omni-potency?

care to MAN-UP? or continue your folly unabated?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Do you understand what a priori arguments are?

Seriously, do you have any clue at all what they are?

Or can you just click the emoticons and act like the fool?

All the evidence indicates the latter...

Quote from killthesunshine:

every issue has its sides.. evidence for and against.

what is the evidence against omni-potency?

care to MAN-UP? or continue your folly unabated?

 

[omegapoint]

Another primitive seeking to distinguish himself and his ethnicity like a congressman sneaking a rider into legislation that benefits his constituency. If you can't see any flaws in all that speculation then thats your problem. Go ahead and have the last word.

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

An infinite number of Gods is illogical, if you clearly understand what God is, and isn't...

Read some Maimonides...

From an epistemological standpoint, a statement like “God is powerful” is objectionable in so far as it implies that we have insight into the essence of God. The advantage of the negative formulation is that it implies nothing of the sort. To say that God does not lack power or possess it in a way comparable to other things is to say that God's power is beyond our comprehension. And similarly for God's life, wisdom, unity, or will. Thus most of the terms we use to describe God are completely equivocal as between God and us. There is then no reason to think that every time we praise God, we are identifying a separate part of the divine persona and comparing it to something else.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/maimonides/

It all begins with a proper understanding of what God is...

...and you won't find that understanding easily and without effort.

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Do you understand what a priori arguments are?

Seriously, do you have any clue at all what they are?

Or can you just click the emoticons and act like the fool?

All the evidence indicates the latter...

you are saying your belief is enough? belief is a priori, and that should be enough for any belief? :eek:

 

[OPTIONAL777]

With your blessings of course...

...last word.

Quote from omegapoint:

Another primitive seeking to distinguish himself and his ethnicity like a congressman sneaking a rider into legislation that benefits his constituency. If you can't see any flaws in all that speculation then thats your problem. Go ahead and have the last word.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Do you understand what an a priori argument is?

I will keep repeating this question to you longshot, as long as is necessary...

Quote from killthesunshine:

you are saying your belief is enough? belief is a priori, and that should be enough for any belief? :eek:

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Do you understand what an a priori argument is?

I will keep repeating this question to you longshot, as long as is necessary...

I ask you repeatedly what would DIS-proof your belief?

You place your belief in your STOCK trades with a stop-loss...

what's your stop-loss in your God

why are you so afraid of this??????

 

[stu]

Quote from FeenixRizin:
Am i understanding you correctly, your answer is "the universe is designed" but not intelligently so?

Essentially, yes.

The Universe is designed - especially insofar as it is full of designs.

A drop of water designs, it is a designer. A perfectly natural design of ripples in water made by a wholly natural thing.
Wind is a designer too.

Super Nova Stars themselves create designs when they explode for instance. They are designers.
Black holes cause designs to occur as they suck in galaxies , stars and gases.

The completely natural movement of one thing against another creates natural designs. They are all designers. The Universe is full of design and designers
Non are seen to be intelligent or need to be so. A moving rock can cause a design in sand, or be designed by the sea. No intelligence required.

Only the make believe in Creationism turns the word design into meaning intelligent design and designer into "supernatural Creator"

Quote from FeenixRizin:

I want to be fair in my grading, and therefore giving you an opportunity to further explain. ("numbskull", insult needs no further explanation.)

Well I am not convinced a Creationist can be fair but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
If you take care to look the "numbskull insult " , it was a question not an insult. I will therefore also withdraw the question.

But please bear in mind, your own remarks and tone regards Dawkins and those you call “atheists” have already surpassed the bounds of insult.