Quote from atticus:
I'll repeat myself: The androgenic potential is no different than any given plasma concentration of test
Ooh rah!
Quote from Reaver:
I never understood why people have such a hard time grasping that concept.

Quote from o10maximus:
Lots of useful/interesting info here for those willing to go the pharmaceutical route, but it would be great if there were more discussion re natural means of maintaining youth/mental alertness/physical strength, etc.
Quote from musclemoney:
That's because Testosterone is a taboo topic, and Estrogen replacement is advertised on T.V.
Test is Test. The difference is the ester.
Methyltest=pills that hit fast! Hard on the liver, and not a good choice.
Suspension= pure test suspended in water. Fast too! I feel it in less than 6 hours, and used it religiously before hitting the stage due to the lack of water retention.
Prop= oil-based, and peaks at about two days in most males.
Enanthate, and Cyp= peaks at about a week, and are common for TRT.
Sustanon (not available in the U.S) peaks in about 3 weeks. Yes, it has prop, phenylprop in it which is faster. But the prop and phenyl are dosed too low to really feel unless you inject Sust eod. The iso, and decanoate in Sust are the very long esters.
I hope that's as clear as mud.
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Quote from atticus:
I'm a proponent of transdermal form/exemestane and DHEA supplementation. High-dose resveratrol bound to HPMC for test and Alpha GPC for hGH. I am far less willing to shut-down HPTA for a few extra reps. Perhaps we should start a thread in chit chat.
Quote from o10maximus:
Is DHEA safe? I read something recently that made me wonder how it can legally be sold in health food stores. I'm not willing to use something that might shutdown my own production either. There's another product called keto-7 that was suppose to be a more refined DHEA (DHEA gets broken down to keto-7, etc). Its been on the market for yrs.
How high on the resveratrol and how does that help your test?
Gotta wonder how much of these supplements we take are even absorbed.