How to find backers/investors

[deadbroke]

Quote from SnakeEYE:

i want to start an investigation group with the $100k entry.any suggestions where to find?

Colombian Cartel

 

[deadbroke]

Quote from Lucias:

I wanted to start this thread with ideas on how to find backers/investors for my trading. I know similar threads have been deleted. So, I'm not asking for a backer but the rules of engagement and good sources. Both of my systems are among the top ranked > 6 months systems at c2.

The two basic questions are:

1.) Where to find sources?
2.) What are rules of engagement for someone for someone who is not a CTA or professional?

In terms of sources, there appear to be a few types of sources

A. Brokerage/system signal services

Example: Collective2, Striker, etc
How Get Payed: You get payed by subscription fees.

B. Individual investors

How to find?
How to setup a profit split without being a professional? How to offer?

C. Quantitative/alternative funds

Many of these seem only interested in HFT strategies.
How to find?
How to negotiate terms?
Any of these back discretionary traders?

D. Prop firms
Seem to not be interested in sourcing "original strategies" but offering training.

E. Sell own signals/sells system outright

I am primarily interested in B and C. I do not have any interest in forming a hedge fund. I have read it is not possible to do profit split without being a CTA.

But, I wanted more information on this. Would sending a private email run "foul" of the regulations? What if they came in as a partner like with an LLC?

I just want to know what the rules are and sources for these types of investors (B. and C.)

Bottomline is you are asking for advice on WHERE and HOW to find prey?

Are you just blind in one eye and can't see with the other?

You're at ET, clown - this is PREY CENTRAL.

Why do you think there are paying sponsors?

Lord, why did you send me here? Why have you forsaken me?

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from deadbroke:

Colombian Cartel

Join in,if you still have what it used to be called bollox.You are the man,right?

 

[Lucias]

Here is a guide on becoming a CTA, seems a bit much for what I want to do:
http://www.emergingtraders.com/pdf-documents/CTAguideCME.pdf

@deadbroke
Yes, there are a lot of people who desire to trade here. However, I am looking for a single or few high net worth individuals to help take my trading to next level.

 

[deadbroke]

Quote from Lucias:

Here is a guide on becoming a CTA, seems a bit much for what I want to do:
http://www.emergingtraders.com/pdf-documents/CTAguideCME.pdf

@deadbroke
Yes, there are a lot of people who desire to trade here. However, I am looking for a single or few high net worth individuals to help take my trading to next level.

Generally speaking I can't imagine there are any even medium net worth individuals here.

But here is what you might try ...

Gain the ET Sponsors as your clients - then you will have it all because each of these Sponsors has already done the hunting for you.

 

[emg]

Quote from Lucias:

I wanted to start this thread with ideas on how to find backers/investors for my trading. I know similar threads have been deleted. So, I'm not asking for a backer but the rules of engagement and good sources. Both of my systems are among the top ranked > 6 months systems at c2.

The two basic questions are:

1.) Where to find sources?
2.) What are rules of engagement for someone for someone who is not a CTA or professional?

In terms of sources, there appear to be a few types of sources

A. Brokerage/system signal services

Example: Collective2, Striker, etc
How Get Payed: You get payed by subscription fees.

B. Individual investors

How to find?
How to setup a profit split without being a professional? How to offer?

C. Quantitative/alternative funds

Many of these seem only interested in HFT strategies.
How to find?
How to negotiate terms?
Any of these back discretionary traders?

D. Prop firms
Seem to not be interested in sourcing "original strategies" but offering training.

E. Sell own signals/sells system outright

I am primarily interested in B and C. I do not have any interest in forming a hedge fund. I have read it is not possible to do profit split without being a CTA.

But, I wanted more information on this. Would sending a private email run "foul" of the regulations? What if they came in as a partner like with an LLC?

I just want to know what the rules are and sources for these types of investors (B. and C.)

Did you ask your coach first before posting?

 

[deadbroke]

Quote from SnakeEYE:



Join in,if you still have what it used to be called bollox.You are the man,right?

Homo.

 

[eudaemon]

If you have something that works for a lot of contracts (probably not!) as well as it does in your sim/C2/1 lot basis, then you can go to any propo shop, broker, fund, etc, etc, etc. and get ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY for a price of course.

You'll lose your freedom, and they may steal your method. Other than that, it is a pain to do OPM in general. The best fund managers generally end up firing their customers and keeping it all for themselves.:eek:

 

[marketsurfer]

Simply have the fund name you as a partner, then you can raise money with no regulatory worries. Surf

 

[SnakeEYE]

Quote from Lucias:

Here is a guide on becoming a CTA, seems a bit much for what I want to do:
http://www.emergingtraders.com/pdf-documents/CTAguideCME.pdf

@deadbroke
Yes, there are a lot of people who desire to trade here. However, I am looking for a single or few high net worth individuals to help take my trading to next level.

Odeadbroke,Lucias!the nickname should start with "O",wich means "hole"