How to deal with those non-Americans messing with threads on American National Intere

Quote from candletrader:

Excellent points fairplay and msfe... the more excellent points we make, the more chances we have of educating the idiots and perhaps even helping them to see the reality...

We must attempt to educate the fools, its kind of like a moral obligation...

Good point on Bali.. Bali was simply minor f'ing payback (whether it was justified or not, it was MINOR... ya hear me, MINOR!!!) for the largescale Aussie terroristic rape of Indonesian oil in East Timor, including the murder of countless East Timorese.. Bali was NOTHING, NO BIG DEAL, NADA relative to what the Aussies did.... YA HEAR ME?... NOTTTHHHHHINNNNNNG!!!! But Bali still sucked, y'all gotta admit :mad:

YEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!! :D :D :D

God Bless America (cos no one else will!!, hahaha!!!)....
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Quote from fairplay:

I like your slur regarding the "primitive trash heap called south east asia": seems many Ozzies like to scavenge that trash heap, particularly in Indonesia, more particularly in Bali?
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what part of "personally speaking" don't you understand?

let me help you: it means FOR ME i find it a trash heap.

there is pretty much ZERO in south east asian culture that i find attractive.

but that is ME.

unlike you, i am NOT claiming that that region of the world has NO culture, or, to quote your cute (but moronically misguided) phrase, that a "can of yogurt has more culture". i am simply stating -- quite uambiguously -- that i, me personally, find it completely unattractive.

i would recommend that you do the same re australian (and western generally) culture.

ps - whether or not "ozzies" (and i'm FAR from your typical ozzie) like scavenging it is COMPLETELY beside the point.
 
Quote from candletrader:

the largescale Aussie terroristic rape of Indonesian oil in East Timor, including the murder of countless East Timorese..
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what the ?!?

hmm, i think we might want to ask the east timorese themselves exactly which country it was that was murdering countless members of their population....

(hint: it starts with "I")
 
Quote from daniel_m:




what part of "personally speaking" don't you understand?

let me help you: it means FOR ME i find it a trash heap.

there is pretty much ZERO in south east asian culture that i find attractive.

but that is ME.

unlike you, i am NOT claiming that that region of the world has NO culture, or, to quote your cute (but moronically misguided) phrase, that a "can of yogurt has more culture". i am simply stating -- quite uambiguously -- that i, me personally, find it completely unattractive.

i would recommend that you do the same re australian (and western generally) culture.

ps - whether or not "ozzies" (and i'm FAR from your typical ozzie) like scavenging it is COMPLETELY beside the point.
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Suit yourself! She'll be right mate!
 
Quote from msfe:

fairplay,can you explain how it is that the colonials [contrary to the well-mannered British in the motherland] so often resort to hate language when they don´t like what they read ? the Americans in particular seem to have enormous difficulties with handling dissent or opposition. in this context, what do you think will happen if the next Iraqi president, US-general Tommy Franks, is confronted with the allegation of being "un-Iraqi" ?
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I am afraid the answer to your question won't be flattering to the former "colonials": they had to leave their home countries, either because of persecution (like the "dissenters" in England) or simply as convicts like in the case of Australia. Of course, this is simplifying, but allow me to use this for a moment: reality is much more complex!

Because of that - I am trying to act like a shrink - they abandoned whatever culture they had brought along and built their own. In the case of the US, I think "The great Gatsby" is a very good book describing this lack of a culture and this thrive for building their own. In Ozzieland I am still puzzled. Probably it will take another couple of generations of Asian immigration to create some real home-bred culture. Already they have overcome their English banger-"culture"... But the "fish-n-chip-shop-culture" is still alive and well, especially in Queensland
 
Quote from candletrader:

Excellent points fairplay and msfe... the more excellent points we make, the more chances we have of educating the idiots and perhaps even helping them to see the reality...

We must attempt to educate the fools, its kind of like a moral obligation...

Good point on Bali.. Bali was simply minor f'ing payback (whether it was justified or not, it was MINOR... ya hear me, MINOR!!!) for the largescale Aussie terroristic rape of Indonesian oil in East Timor, including the murder of countless East Timorese.. Bali was NOTHING, NO BIG DEAL, NADA relative to what the Aussies did.... YA HEAR ME?... NOTTTHHHHHINNNNNNG!!!! But Bali still sucked, y'all gotta admit :mad:

YEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!! :D :D :D

God Bless America (cos no one else will!!, hahaha!!!)....
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I agree with you but not 100%!

Especially I resent that approach of calculating who killed more of their own or of an ethnic minority.
Imagine you are a jew and you meet with a German who starts accounting for the 6 million jews that were murdered against the Palestinians that died in their struggle. I think that's obnoxious.

Why can't we just admit that there were crimes which were committed by some governments, yes, with the help of large parts of the population, and move forward?

Take a young German kid who was born in 1980: he is 23 now and some people still insist he is guilty of murdering jews: that's absolutely pathetic. There is no country in this world where there were no mass murders: not one single country. The US and Australia are both as "guilty" as Germany, or, if you insist, Indonesia.

Talking about Bali I take exception on your remark: it was murder, and the people (Indons and Ozzies alike ) who died there were caught in some cross-fire which even the perpetrators did not know what it was about!
 
daniel_m:`i would recommend that you do the same re australian (and western generally) culture.´

`western generally´= Western Australian culture generally ?
 
Quote from fairplay:


I am afraid the answer to your question won't be flattering to the former "colonials": they had to leave their home countries, either because of persecution (like the "dissenters" in England) or simply as convicts like in the case of Australia. Of course, this is simplifying, but allow me to use this for a moment: reality is much more complex!

Because of that - I am trying to act like a shrink - they abandoned whatever culture they had brought along and built their own. In the case of the US, I think "The great Gatsby" is a very good book describing this lack of a culture and this thrive for building their own. In Ozzieland I am still puzzled. Probably it will take another couple of generations of Asian immigration to create some real home-bred culture. Already they have overcome their English banger-"culture"... But the "fish-n-chip-shop-culture" is still alive and well, especially in Queensland
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holy smokes. what a deadbeat.

you expect us to believe that YOU got an MBA in switzerland? a blundering dunderhead that cannot grasp the simplest of definitions? geez...


who the hell are these "former colonials"??????????
what in the world does a modern day briton or dutchman, for example, have to do with colonialism?????

you know, you yourself are prime example of the ethnocentric bigotry you constantly accuse others of. your absurd (and inaccurate) simplifications that focus on a tiny narrow section of the societies you attempt to describe prove this time and time again.

if you think your indonesian culture is in some way objectively superior, please, tell me about it.. i'll be all ears.

lol. yeah right. a pack of musilm (indictment enough) illiterates all trying to screw each other over $2 are gonna offer anything to the world... hahahaha
 
Quote from fairplay:


Take a young German kid who was born in 1980: he is 23 now and some people still insist he is guilty of murdering jews: that's absolutely pathetic.
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what? there's probably about 5 loonies (including yourself) in the whole world that think like that.
 
Quote from msfe:

daniel_m:`i would recommend that you do the same re australian (and western generally) culture.´

`western generally´= Western Australian culture generally ?
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hohoho. side splitting humor..

msfe (wild), you can't see any ubiquity amongst western cultures huh?

you're truly pathetic.

just another holier than thou ultra-liberal eurodisney, too keen to distance himself from everything he regards american, smugly pointing fingers from his little corner of the alps. you might wanna put a check on that nasty little habit -- it's obviously completely clouded your ability to see reality.
 
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