How stupid are the people of Iowa?

Here’s the logic you are working with:
US farmers shut out of world markets.
Reality: exports near all time highs.

Stick to MSNBC talking points and when you trade a grain or understand even an iota about it compared to your understanding of Trump U, then come back.

Until then - you are as clueless as the day is long.

Nobody said US is shut out of world markets, that's strawman no.1

Then you come up with a new lie 'exports near all time highs' when in fact they haven't even surpassed last year's numbers

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What were the MSNBC talking points here? Why can't you explain that if in your world the Soybean markets are doing so great NOW then why is there a need for a bailout at all? You can't answer that simple question.
 
Soybean Farmers and Tariffs
By Dennis Biviano Ohio 2:14 PM ET Nov. 19, 2018
Plain City, OH -- “This has been a tough year. It's been a really tough year. And the bad thing is next year looks even tougher,” says Plain City farmer and business ower Fred Yoder

Yoder says he and his fellow Ohio farmers are in survival mode and quickly losing patience with the current administration.

  • Ohio exports nearly $2 billion dollars worth of soybeans each year
  • Soybean imports by China dropped 94% so far this year
  • US Agriculture Department agreed to provide $12 billion to farmers hit hard by tariffs
The fourth generation soybean and corn farmer says the tariffs are affecting his bottom line more than people realize.

“I can tell you what my crops were going to be worth in the field in May, then after the tariffs were implemented, I lost $100,000 just overnight. That's how much my soybean crop was worth less,” says Yoder.

Ohio exports nearly $2-billion dollars worth of soybeans each year and about a third goes to China, which in turn uses it for oil and feed.

Ohio State Professor of Agricultural Marketing, Trade and Policy Ian Sheldon says the tariffs have created uncertainty, caused a downward spiral of prices and forced China to seek other options.

“If this continues, the soybean industry runs the risk of losing market share to Brazil, cause Brazil is stepping in and filling the gap that is being left by China not importing from the US,” says Professor Ian Sheldon.

Earlier this month the USDA said soybean imports by China dropped 94 percent so far this year.

Over the summer, the US Agriculture Department agreed to provide $12-billion dollars to farmers hit hard by tariffs...but that isn't expected to continue next year.

“We're forecasting in 2019, a prototypical 1100 acre Ohio farmer in the western part of the state with 50-50 corn, soybean rotation, could use about a third of their net farm income in the coming years,” says Professor Sheldon.

Yoder says half of his 2000 acres is soybeans, and next year he's already plans to plant more corn.

And despite these trying times, he choses to be optimistic, saying he believes the US and China will come to an agreement this coming year.

“Trump seems to be the deal maker, so he likes to have win-win situations. And it's going to take some give on both sides. But I think there's a chance to have a better trade deal, a more fair trade deal, but it's gonna take people that are willing to make a deal,” says Yoder.

http://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2018/11/19/soybean-farmers-and-tariffs
 
Nobody said US is shut out of world markets, that's strawman no.1

FROM YOUR POST, QUOTE:
"New York Times: “America’s farmers have been shut out of foreign markets, hit with retaliatory tariffs and lost lucrative contracts in the face of President Trump’s trade war."

YOU IDIOT...YOU FUCKTARD...

Then you come up with a new lie 'exports near all time highs' when in fact they haven't even surpassed last year's numbers

U.S. soybean sales to China have declined by almost 90% since the imposition of tariffs by the Trump administration. Sales of pork and other farm commodities have also fallen sharply. Yet, overall ag exports are on the rise. In the first 9 months of this year total U.S. farm exports have totaled $108 billion up 6%. Projections are that, by the end of the year, total sales will reach $150 billion — the second highest level in history. The latest USDA figures show total soybean sales are up 9%, the value of U.S. corn exports up 23%, beef up 11%, dairy up 5%, and ethanol up 15%.

READ IT AND WEEP NPC:
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produ...ates-fatus/us-agricultural-trade-data-update/

THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET!!!!!
Even Soybean sales are UP y/y...
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET!!!

Every fucking farmer I know bitches and moans about his lot in life..

Man, if I had just sold my crop before that great weather hit!...

Their ENTIRE livelihoods rest on, 90% of the time, WEATHER...the rest, shit like government intervention and interference. They are perpetually gambling on the price of their crops...And most of the time they get it wrong because they bet their backyards.

I've NEVER heard a farmer not complain about the price they receive for their product.

What were the MSNBC talking points here? Why can't you explain that if in your world the Soybean markets are doing so great NOW then why is there a need for a bailout at all? You can't answer that simple question.

You are just purposely being an annoying obtuse troll...
You have No fucking clue what you are talking about..
LYING about US Farmers...exports, bailouts, etc...
LYING about what constitutes effective price in this market.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE...
Go back to NOT trading whatever else it is you pretend to trade while you dicker around in Politics all day...

ORANGE MAN BAD
ORANGE MAN BAD
 
FROM YOUR POST, QUOTE:
"New York Times: “America’s farmers have been shut out of foreign markets, hit with retaliatory tariffs and lost lucrative contracts in the face of President Trump’s trade war."

YOU IDIOT...YOU FUCKTARD...

Here comes the Trump University gradretard with his pathetic reading skills - nowhere does that line suggests that SOYBEANS were shut out of foreign markets - if you read the paragraph immediately after the opening para, it talks about ALL kinds of products including orange juice and cheese.

You are a fucking moron and thanks for proving it. Retards who can't process a single para go on crying about FAKE NEWS and NPCs. What a riot.


U.S. soybean sales to China have declined by almost 90% since the imposition of tariffs by the Trump administration. Sales of pork and other farm commodities have also fallen sharply. Yet, overall ag exports are on the rise. In the first 9 months of this year total U.S. farm exports have totaled $108 billion up 6%. Projections are that, by the end of the year, total sales will reach $150 billion — the second highest level in history. The latest USDA figures show total soybean sales are up 9%, the value of U.S. corn exports up 23%, beef up 11%, dairy up 5%, and ethanol up 15%.

Oh so we should only look at the first 9 months and ignore the big fall soybean season which has crashed completely?

And if you understand anything at all how markets work, you would understand that those spike in exports were immediately before the tariffs went into effect so that farmers and exporters could avoid the crash that they knew would happen after they went into effect

READ IT AND WEEP NPC:
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produ...ates-fatus/us-agricultural-trade-data-update/

THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET!!!!!
Even Soybean sales are UP y/y...
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET!!!

Thanks for this

September shipments were down by a quarter, while October and November shipments (through 11/18) were down by nearly half.

Hahahah

Every fucking farmer I know bitches and moans about his lot in life..

Man, if I had just sold my crop before that great weather hit!...

Their ENTIRE livelihoods rest on, 90% of the time, WEATHER...the rest, shit like government intervention and interference. They are perpetually gambling on the price of their crops...And most of the time they get it wrong because they bet their backyards.

I've NEVER heard a farmer not complain about the price they receive for their product.



You are just purposely being an annoying obtuse troll...
You have No fucking clue what you are talking about..
LYING about US Farmers...exports, bailouts, etc...
LYING about what constitutes effective price in this market.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE...
Go back to NOT trading whatever else it is you pretend to trade while you dicker around in Politics all day...

ORANGE MAN BAD
ORANGE MAN BAD

Oh so they bitch and whine all the time but got a bailout just this time?

Why can't you explain that?

I didn't lie, you obviously have zero reading comprehension and are left to posting memes created by Russian troll factories.

ORANGE MAN PEDO
CULT BAD
INBRED RETARD BAD

Try something new and try to answer why a bailout if things are looking so GREAT.
 
hey check out the crash in oil prices..
DAMN you TRUMP!
I mean, THANKS OBAMA!
I mean...

Ass-rimming Muslim Saudis could have that effect, you must be proud of the new Muslim manlove your cult messiah found. They make a great couple, the hair and the beard.
 
Here comes the Trump University gradretard with his pathetic reading skills - nowhere does that line suggests that SOYBEANS were shut out of foreign markets - if you read the paragraph immediately after the opening para, it talks about ALL kinds of products including orange juice and cheese.

You are a fucking moron and thanks for proving it. Retards who can't process a single para go on crying about FAKE NEWS and NPCs. What a riot.




Oh so we should only look at the first 9 months and ignore the big fall soybean season which has crashed completely?

And if you understand anything at all how markets work, you would understand that those spike in exports were immediately before the tariffs went into effect so that farmers and exporters could avoid the crash that they knew would happen after they went into effect



Thanks for this

September shipments were down by a quarter, while October and November shipments (through 11/18) were down by nearly half.

Hahahah



Oh so they bitch and whine all the time but got a bailout just this time?

Why can't you explain that?

I didn't lie, you obviously have zero reading comprehension and are left to posting memes created by Russian troll factories.

ORANGE MAN PEDO
CULT BAD
INBRED RETARD BAD

Try something new and try to answer why a bailout if things are looking so GREAT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...a Complete and utterly clueless Libtard.
The facts are like Kryptonite to you ..... and the lies are so warm and fuzzy to fit your ORANGEMANBAD manifesto..
Keep lying - you are doing a good job of fooling your leftard friends.
 
Ass-rimming Muslim Saudis could have that effect, you must be proud of the new Muslim manlove your cult messiah found. They make a great couple, the hair and the beard.
obama-muslim.jpg

"“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
- BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (your Muslim Hero)
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...a Complete and utterly clueless Libtard.
The facts are like Kryptonite to you ..... and the lies are so warm and fuzzy to fit your ORANGEMANBAD manifesto..
Keep lying - you are doing a good job of fooling your leftard friends.

A Trump ballwasher whining about facts who couldn't comprehend a single line while still avoiding to answer why in the hell would anyone need a bailout if the export market is at all time highs.
 
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