How on earth are the indicies markets all so extremely bullish??!

Tsing Tao nailed it: algos

Institutional traders/investors (which move the markets, not us itty bitty retail traders) have well-researched programmed trading in place to initiate buy/sell orders based on a mixture of fundamental and technical levels.

Price prints patterns that repeat more often than not.

More often than not is the code-phrase for "trading edge".

Observe, make notes, prepare a plan, follow the plan, ride the coattails of the big money that move price.

Right now, the fundamentals are not bad and the market is slightly undervalued.

Right now, the counter-trend pullback move that appeared might become a true reversal signal was (at least temporarily) invalidated today and the technical price action signaled to buy/add to longs.

If it wasn't for the mess in Europe we'd be preparing to test the year's highs soon.
 
Quote from iceman1:

May I ask/propose a serious Q?

How do you know that no one wanted to buy it. Obviously, if you think about it, many must have bought --- it's called "accumulation".
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As iceman knows, I was a buyer in the retirement accounts when the blood ran in the streets in August and October. It's been an interesting ride (especially JEF over the past few days), but net quite positive.
 
Quote from NoDoji:

As iceman knows, I was a buyer in the retirement accounts when the blood ran in the streets in August and October. It's been an interesting ride (especially JEF over the past few days), but net quite positive.
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don't follow JEF but looks like today could be bottom for 4Q (or short covering)

that said, doesn't look like a stock for a 'peaceful' retirement - wild

never followed it
 
Quote from spanish89:

When the S&P was down at 1,100 no-one wanted to buy it that cheaply,
and the market was getting slashed down 1-2% in minutes multiple times per day after every intra-day rally that took many many hours,
yet was undone totally in minutes.


Yet now at 1,250 the market is extremely bullish as it is severely struggling to fall even a few %.

The best examples of this are on tuesday it had spent hours and hours slowly grinding down to 1213 level,
then suddenly rocketed up to 1230 in 20seconds!

This morning at 7am (UK time) the market had spent all night slowly going down to 1213 again,
then suddenly jolted up to 1236 in a few minutes!



Whilst i know the the markets are often illogical,
what on earth could be driving all this extreme bullishness??
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This bull is done by ET :D
 
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Quote from spanish89:

When the S&P was down at 1,100 no-one wanted to buy it that cheaply,
and the market was getting slashed down 1-2% in minutes multiple times per day after every intra-day rally that took many many hours,
yet was undone totally in minutes.


Yet now at 1,250 the market is extremely bullish as it is severely struggling to fall even a few %.

The best examples of this are on tuesday it had spent hours and hours slowly grinding down to 1213 level,
then suddenly rocketed up to 1230 in 20seconds!

This morning at 7am (UK time) the market had spent all night slowly going down to 1213 again,
then suddenly jolted up to 1236 in a few minutes!



Whilst i know the the markets are often illogical,
what on earth could be driving all this extreme bullishness??
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The market only responds to reality in the very long run or in a crisis (2008 is an example). The rest of the time it is a casino in which you can still count cards. Once you recognize this, two things will happen. It will get easier to make money, and you'll stop asking why the market does this or that.

Since the 1970's inflation is the most important force behind the S&P 500. Inflation drives nominal earnings up, and inflation drives the market up. No one bothers to adjust nominal market values for inflation. If they did, after removing dividends, the market would be a nearly horizontal, very slowly rising, line plus noise. The market, when viewed in nominal terms and a longer time frame, will rise as long as there is inflation, i.e., virtually forever.

You wouldn't waste time trying to figure out why a particular pattern pops up on a slot machine, and it is just as much a waste of time, in the short run, to try explaining why the market does this or that.

That short term trading in the market is gambling, but gambling where you can still count cards, is Wall Street's most carefully guarded secret.
 
Despite the recent bull-fest, bears remain determined to prevent a xmas rally.
Strong bullish warnings for USD weekly chart continue.
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Quote from piezoe:

The market only responds to reality in the very long run or in a crisis (2008 is an example). The rest of the time it is a casino in which you can still count cards. Once you recognize this, two things will happen. It will get easier to make money, and you'll stop asking why the market does this or that.

Since the 1970's inflation is the most important force behind the S&P 500. Inflation drives nominal earnings up, and inflation drives the market up. No one bothers to adjust nominal market values for inflation. If they did, after removing dividends, the market would be a nearly horizontal, very slowly rising, line plus noise. The market, when viewed in nominal terms and a longer time frame, will rise as long as there is inflation, i.e., virtually forever.

You wouldn't waste time trying to figure out why a particular pattern pops up on a slot machine, and it is just as much a waste of time, in the short run, to try explaining why the market does this or that.

That short term trading in the market is gambling, but gambling where you can still count cards, is Wall Street's most carefully guarded secret.
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At least someone come here and tell the true .. :p
 
Quote from galvinlee888:

At least someone finally come here and tell the true .. :p


For short term trading ..

Tea leaf TA as claimed by some ET here, just make me laugh, their chance to right in the prediction is not better than 50% (flip the coin)

Beside "counting card", WS also some other dirty secrets to "colloborate" to max their profits ..
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