How much does a HFT trader typically make?

this is true for all humans whether traders or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpXybTnGVg

envy = give me what you have cause i don't want to work for it. you don't play fair bla bla bla. well my personal plan is to wipe out all the small little traders who don't have the money to compete at the highest levels. all the while i will give free seminars and trading methods that show promise to suck in new victims that haven't participated in the markets and fleece them of all their money as well. nothing will stop me either because the fuel that is endless that propels the doomed to their peril is their very own = greed.

in a evil tone - lol hypothetically of course i would never do such.

m - for monster!
 
Very nice :) Who is that - or is he a stable shock jock? Sounds sore that he isn't in the club. the people in the club don't lose. UHFT, nothing loses. Apart from USA benders who we will happily rape violently. If he goes up against this statement, then him himself is a "fucking loser", and abig "fucking "failure"

Comments please.
 
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Very nice :) Who is that - or is he a stable shock jock? Comments please.
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Could you please quote the post you are replying to?

Otherwise, those of us who have that poster on ignore won't know what you are writing about.
 
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if you are a trader, and had traded markets you wouldn't make this statement at all :p.
if you've designed Algorithms, you realize there isn't one size fits all, depends on the flow and ....
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I see you like to create algos that are form fitted to the data then ... aka "curve fitting" ?
Yeah, they work for a while...and build a false sense of confidence, and then when you pick up the size to make the big killing, they fall apart....and you must start all over.
 
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I see you like to create algos that are form fitted to the data then ... aka "curve fitting" ?
Yeah, they work for a while...and build a false sense of confidence, and then when you pick up the size to make the big killing, they fall apart....and you must start all over.
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I've heard this argument since the first day I started getting involved with the markets in 1980. By the early 90's I figured I was smart enough to try to figure out why systems fell apart. It wasn't until the turn of the century did I figure out why. I can see, especially in this forum, very very very few people have figured it out and even fewer think it's possible.
 
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Yeah, they work for a while...and build a false sense of confidence, and then when you pick up the size to make the big killing, they fall apart....and you must start all over.
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spoken just like someone who can't so they run down those who can. whine whine whine i knew that once jack showed up his band of idiots would follow to destroy any decent thread on this fucked up board of jack cultist. m
 
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spoken just like someone who can't so they run down those who can. whine whine whine i knew that once jack showed up his band of idiots would follow to destroy any decent thread on this fucked up board of jack cultist. m
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Mark, you are obviously successful, but you are also in a different world.
The statement I made can be shown to be true enough with all of the systematic trading failures mentioned on this very forum.
 
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The statement I made can be shown to be true enough with all of the systematic trading failures mentioned on this very forum.
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Not answering for Mark but for myself.

You are 1,000,000%.

You should have added "traditional" in from the word systematic in your statement. The problem is very few individuals know how or want to put forth the effort to move beyond "traditional".
 
like jack is the answer? whats worst than a system over optimized? a work your ass off method that leave everything subject to interpretation?


best of two evils

1.) follow jack heresy and his crew of idiots?

2.) follow a system which is over optimized?

at least the optimized crap is not all bullshit just overly abused. jack on the other hand is a slick sheppard of the ignorant who is paid on a per post basis for his presence on the forum.

m
 
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