I started in January of 1999, lost about 45K through present. 40K in stocks, most of that in the spring of 2001. Took a lot of time off, tried the NQ in spring and summer of 2002, lost about 5K. Finally realized I probably shouldn't be a discretionary trader, so I started playing around with system development. This makes a lot more sense considering my engineering and programming background. Just put up another 5K, now trading 1 NQ totally mechanically, and treading water, up about $200 in 4 weeks of trading. Much too early to say but at least I feel I'm just reaching the point were I can become profitable and know what it's going to take.