How much cash is safe to keep at one broker?

Quote from 1a2b3cppp:

I have $300-400k with Scottrade, about 2/3 of which is currently invested and the rest is sitting in cash. Longer term stuff, dividends, swing trades, etc.

I also have around $50k with OEC in a futures account which I occasionally make withdrawals from into my bank account. It's way more than I need to cover the style of trading I do, I just like to have around that much in there.

I trust that both Scottrade and OEC will be there tomorrow so I'm not worried. I've been to Scottrade offices many times and I've talked to OEC on the phone many times.

I wouldn't keep any money with shady fly-by-night brokres or Forex brokers, though.

With Scottrade, you have SIPIC which covers up to $100,000 in cash.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

With Scottrade, you have SIPIC which covers up to $100,000 in cash.

SIPC not SIPIC covers up to $500K total account value of which $100K in cash is covered.
 
Surprised there are no mentions of this.

Some brokers / clearing firms will accept deposits of treasuries - it is standard practice to credit you 90% of the face value for margin. If the firm wipe out, you still own the treasuries.

Most secure option seems to be the likes of IB, with a deposit of treasuries. Note also that with IB you have both a commodities account and securities account, the latter being SIPC insured and all capital not used for margin at the close is "swept" into this account at the close each day.

For very large amounts, you may be able to negotiate a bank guarantee / standby letter of credit with a clearer in lieu of making a deposit directly with them, and of course this can also be negotiated with counterparties in OTC markets, currencies being the obvious example.
 
Quote from Blotto:

Surprised there are no mentions of this.

Some brokers / clearing firms will accept deposits of treasuries - it is standard practice to credit you 90% of the face value for margin. If the firm wipe out, you still own the treasuries.

Most secure option seems to be the likes of IB, with a deposit of treasuries. Note also that with IB you have both a commodities account and securities account, the latter being SIPC insured and all capital not used for margin at the close is "swept" into this account at the close each day.

all the brokers i've seen also carry private insurance (typically by lloyd's of london). you can get around the $1mm coverage limit on cash by putting your excess cash into money market mutual funds or buying IB efp's. they are treated as securities for the purpose of insurance coverage.

that's assuming that you trust LL.
 
Quote from Surdo:

SIPC not SIPIC covers up to $500K total account value of which $100K in cash is covered.

You are correct!

And my spelling...:( I've got those damn SIPC signs and stickers in my office too.:eek: :D
 
I would not put all my money in any one account I would not even have all my money in trading accounts after I got wiped out of 6 figures from Ameritrade because they deliberately supplied the wrong level 2 quotes

Just don't trade with all your money .. You should keep about $250,000 in a bank just for backup and to start over is something goes down . I read about a guy whose brokerage account got hacked into and he go wiped out and the broker refused to refund him so anything can happen to your money . Don't bank on the broker refunding you even if they are insured because they will start playing all kinds of games and try to blame you for being negligent !
 
Quote from TickSlicer:

Brokerages or Clearing Firms are required to keep client funds in a separate customer segregated bank account for your safety.

Cash accounts only.
 
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