How many scientists really dispute global warming?

Quote from dcraig:

The last few years have NOT cooled - that is a complete fantasy. This is the hottest decade on record. Nobody is explaining it away because of a low in the solar cycle, even though there is a low in the short term solar cycle. GISS temperature record shows 2009 as the second hottest year by a whisker. You are seriously misinformed:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20100121/

Another good article showing the low correlation to long-term solar radiance is here:

<http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=115>
 
the only thing proven by this asinine experiment is ...



people just love to talk about the weather ..



Adding the provenance of Ph'd 'Climatologists' simply multiplies this effect by 1000.


I'm sure you all know where I stand ... firmly on the throat of these idiot-bastards
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

You mean the same pos chart I have been trashing for several pages now? Where is your reply to my post? And please no bullshit excuses about how it isn't worth your time blah blah.

Trash it all you want, you can verify the numbers against NASA's.

If you don't want to believe the numbers that's your problem, not NASA's. (Especially when you can verify the numbers against other sources.)

At that point it's more of a psychological issue.

Psychology today would say that you're pursuing a quest for metaphysical certainty and doing that through "epic struggle between good and evil. The divine principle is pitted against the satanic principle. While it may appear that the battle hangs in the balance, the ultimate victory of the divine is commonly assumed. Hence, the dialectical version of metaphysics reduces to the Panglossian one."

It's certainly simpler that way.

"The belief that a secret, almost all-powerful human elite conspires to subdue the human masses for the sake of own profit is a variation on the theme of Satanic corruption. Imagine that all, or most, of the terrible things happening in the world are part of a grand oppressive design. Do not only assume that someone profits now from war, famine, or mere economic recession, but assume that such tribulations are secretly engineered for the ultimate goal of world domination. Events that could also be interpreted in a positive light, such as the civil unrest in Iran, must also be part of the grand scheme. Even with a rudimentary understanding of the scientific way of thinking, such ideas are suspect. First, there is no prediction other than "some terrible things will eventually happen," but only after-the-fact "explanation" of the "We-know-who-is-behind-this" type. Second, there is no model connecting distal causes (e.g., the plot to dominate the world) to the effects via proximal causes (e.g., plausible machinations that could actually cause complex societal events to come about in exactly the way they do). Third, there is no positive linkage between the imaginability or credibility of the causes and the observed events. Instead-and this is, I believe, the most astonishing psychological feature of conspiracy theories-it is assumed that the most improbable claims are taken to be the most persuasive ones."
 
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Trash it all you want, you can verify the numbers against NASA's.

If you don't want to believe the numbers that's your problem, not NASA's. (Especially when you can verify the numbers against other sources.)

At that point it's more of a psychological issue.

Psychology today would say that you're pursuing a quest for metaphysical certainty and doing that through "epic struggle between good and evil. The divine principle is pitted against the satanic principle. While it may appear that the battle hangs in the balance, the ultimate victory of the divine is commonly assumed. Hence, the dialectical version of metaphysics reduces to the Panglossian one."

It's certainly simpler that way.

"The belief that a secret, almost all-powerful human elite conspires to subdue the human masses for the sake of own profit is a variation on the theme of Satanic corruption. Imagine that all, or most, of the terrible things happening in the world are part of a grand oppressive design. Do not only assume that someone profits now from war, famine, or mere economic recession, but assume that such tribulations are secretly engineered for the ultimate goal of world domination. Events that could also be interpreted in a positive light, such as the civil unrest in Iran, must also be part of the grand scheme. Even with a rudimentary understanding of the scientific way of thinking, such ideas are suspect. First, there is no prediction other than "some terrible things will eventually happen," but only after-the-fact "explanation" of the "We-know-who-is-behind-this" type. Second, there is no model connecting distal causes (e.g., the plot to dominate the world) to the effects via proximal causes (e.g., plausible machinations that could actually cause complex societal events to come about in exactly the way they do). Third, there is no positive linkage between the imaginability or credibility of the causes and the observed events. Instead-and this is, I believe, the most astonishing psychological feature of conspiracy theories-it is assumed that the most improbable claims are taken to be the most persuasive ones."

I don't believe in AGW but if I did the obvious solution is "nuclear winter".
 

Neither Washington nor the United States are the whole planet. In fact they are a rather small part of it. Globally, January 2010 was hottest January on record as determined by satellite measurement. But you don't have to take my word for it. Try well known AGW skeptic Roy Spencer who does not dispute the facts and reports as such here:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

More comment here:

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...-satellite-record-roy-spencer-global-warming/

Only fools now dispute that the planet is warming.
 
Quote from dcraig:

Neither Washington nor the United States are the whole planet. In fact they are a rather small part of it. Globally, January 2010 was hottest January on record as determined by satellite measurement. But you don't have to take my word for it. Try well known AGW skeptic Roy Spencer who does not dispute the facts and reports as such here:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

More comment here:

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...-satellite-record-roy-spencer-global-warming/

Only fools now dispute that the planet is warming.
"Climate change — it happens, with or without our help". The quote taken right from Dr. Spencers web site. Yes, we're a tad warmer over that great span of time since 1979. But why? The climate cultists jump to their wild eyed conclusion that it must be the evil man, but the more balanced among us know that there are many other more natural factors in play which have considerably more impact than carbon emissions. Can't tax those sun spots and ocean currents though, now can we?
 
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