Claims is about all you do make. Where is your trading plan?
How many of you (small timeframe) traders take PA into account?
- Thread starter halfwaythere
- Start date
Claims is about all you do make. Where is your trading plan?
People are talking about "price action" as if there is an agreement on what that means. Is there? Is "price action" simply price data or price-based signals? If so, yes some can find a way to make money with that. Its also true you can't learn it in a book.
Here is the problem. Data is just data. it does not contain inherent signals. Does not matter what kind. Do some traders use price data to find systems and trades? sure. But it is not a fixed body of knowledge. This about it. That would assume that ones counter-parties where permanently stupid and never learned - they just give money away if you follow a canned pattern. That is not how it works. The market is a competitive process, not a mechanical process.
That brings me to one of the great myths (similar to what I have stated). That there are all these great strategies written about in books or guru courses, and it is just "super hard" to have the discipline or fortitude to trade them, or the "craft". IMO its NOT TRUE. Good ideas actually work. Aside from severe mental or emotional problems its not that hard to trade if one actually is using stuff that works - and of course the real problem is that most don't have anything that works worth a damn.
Here is the problem. Data is just data. it does not contain inherent signals. Does not matter what kind. Do some traders use price data to find systems and trades? sure. But it is not a fixed body of knowledge. This about it. That would assume that ones counter-parties where permanently stupid and never learned - they just give money away if you follow a canned pattern. That is not how it works. The market is a competitive process, not a mechanical process.
That brings me to one of the great myths (similar to what I have stated). That there are all these great strategies written about in books or guru courses, and it is just "super hard" to have the discipline or fortitude to trade them, or the "craft". IMO its NOT TRUE. Good ideas actually work. Aside from severe mental or emotional problems its not that hard to trade if one actually is using stuff that works - and of course the real problem is that most don't have anything that works worth a damn.
*crickets*
Im not sure what you mean. The program takes care of risk control-- this is the age of the computer, you know that-- right???
Price movement [price action]: the continuous tick-by-tick (transaction-by-transaction) movement of price as shown on the tape [or on a corresponding chart].
This is what I mean by "price action". What others may mean is unknowable unless they define their terms.
Price moves in ways that are predictable to the same extent that behavior is predictable. Behavior matters because market movements are determined by behavior. If one understands the behavior of market participants, he can with a fair degree of accuracy predict where and how far price will go.
If you want to call your program a trading plan, fine. But you can provide no evidence that it is consistently profitable. Riskarb busted you on that long ago.
If these folks are telling the truth about success( which the evidence is overwhelmingly against, but it is possible during certain market conditions)., then its an intuitive type process at work. Its obviously not a fixed objective system that can be @taught" by drawing lines on a varible chart. I bet these guys dont even understand logarithimic charts and the ridiculousness of how they try to teach without even using consistent parameters, in addition to very corupted free data feeds. Something aint right !
Its not consistently profitable-- no one is. I never claimed otherwise. It works sometimes and we try to lever up to capture max profits
All one has to do is read it and trade it. If he's too afraid to take the trades, that's not the plan's fault.
Of course, one does have to know how to recognize a range. One also has to know how to recognize a trend. If he thinks ranges and trends are nonsense, the approach is not for him. But that's not the plan's problem.
It's not consistently profitable? It works sometimes? This is what you keep boasting about?