How many nukes are we going to let NK build before we take them out?

[Dr. Zhivodka]

As matter of fact yeah...I have been. There are not many West Coast Marines who don't go to Korea.

Quote from gigsup:

What do you think he said. You been to Korea? Doc.

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Signed
Curtis LeMay.

Quote from TraderZones:

I agree. I think a massive air bombardment of every ship, every military base, every bridge, every govt building. every army post, every port.

Like 1500 cruise missiles, 500-600 advanced planes, take out all radar and other installations. No ground forces. Sort of like first few days of Iraq, but on steroids etc. Every week is more progress towards nukes. No negotiations has ever yielded anything except gifts to the NK leaders. They have never lived up to even one perm agreement.

Don't stop bombing until the govt and military is completely wiped out. Explain to the Chinese later.

 

[Scataphagos]

Isn't is more likely the little weasel is just being naughty so that the USA will give him some more money to just knock it off?

 

[insider trading]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Isn't is more likely the little weasel is just being naughty so that the USA will give him some more money to just knock it off?

Yes,but Obama isn't playing that game like Bush and Clinton did

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Yeah the weasel is doing exactly that. And Obama is playing it exactly right.

Quote from Scataphagos:

Isn't is more likely the little weasel is just being naughty so that the USA will give him some more money to just knock it off?

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from Misthos:

Have you lost your mind?

You do understand that N Korea is kinda connected to Asia and other countries? That nukes give off radiation? That neighboring countries will have to bear an enormous cost, which will ultimately be borne by us via many, many unintended consequences?

One friggin bomb dropped on a building would do the job simply enough.

Either you don't think things thru or you're a veritable nutcase.

Yeah, just like 1 bomb dropped on a building worked with Saddam hussien right? Oh thats right...it took 1000s of bombs and how long was it to find him cowering in a hole? Quite a bit of time if i remember. And you know what? Japan is asia, yet people still live there. Do you remember how Japan dropped hundreds of bombs on Pearl harbor. They thought that many bombs would stop us...what did we do? we dropped 2 bombs....thats it...just 2. They surrendered quickly after that.

I dont trust the military intelligence to find a specific restaurant or nightclub that kim jong il might be in. Better to just drop a nuke and know you got him and his generals.

Radiation isnt a problem really. You are thinking nukes give off radiation like chernobyl, but they dont. The government set off plenty of nukes 100 miles away from vegas and people still live there ok.

 

[gigsup]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

As matter of fact yeah...I have been. There are not many West Coast Marines who don't go to Korea.

Okay, since you have been there and most here have not.

what is the situation over there? What sort of threat

does China pose?

 

[gigsup]

Quote from insider trading:

Many are over rating Chinas influence imo

Things have changed signifcantly from the 1950s and they will not fight to the death for N.Korea imo.

China's economy is dependent on the US buying their cheap products,that was not the case in the 50's

China has loaned the US a lot of money,I don't want to be on the bad side of anybody who has a lot of my money and I am making billions of interest on every year.This to was not the case in the 50's

China is heavily dependent on oil,mostly middle eastern oil that arrives by sea transport.if any conflict arises The US Navy can quickly cut off most oil supplies to China.China is currently paying billions to Russia for exclusive rights to as much Russian oil as they can get and build pipelines to get that oil but that is not available yet and even when it is the US can bomb the pipelines.


China does not want a conflict with the US.China does not want conflict between Korea and The US either but they will not defend them to the extent that they did in the 50's imo

that is something I would not rule out. How big is China's
army?

Of course, neither side wants conflict, but it is naive to
dismiss them.

 

[insider trading]

Quote from gigsup:

that is something I would not rule out. How big is China's
army?

Of course, neither side wants conflict, but it is naive to
dismiss them.

I read Chinas army is about 2 million active and 800,000 reserve

I'm not dismissing the Chinese,But imo China needs America more then they need N.Korea , who is really just a pain in the ass for them

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Boy, do you ever have an ignorant and uninformed view of the war in Pacific.

Better to wait out the NK. Develop a huge and solid multi-national based coalition. And then actively deny them all goods and service that we possibly can. And then wait until they crack.

OR we can do do what Bush and Clinton and Bush did for over 24 years. We can give then more fuel oil and rice and make them promise to be good.

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Yeah, just like 1 bomb dropped on a building worked with Saddam hussien right? Oh thats right...it took 1000s of bombs and how long was it to find him cowering in a hole? Quite a bit of time if i remember. And you know what? Japan is asia, yet people still live there. Do you remember how Japan dropped hundreds of bombs on Pearl harbor. They thought that many bombs would stop us...what did we do? we dropped 2 bombs....thats it...just 2. They surrendered quickly after that.

I dont trust the military intelligence to find a specific restaurant or nightclub that kim jong il might be in. Better to just drop a nuke and know you got him and his generals.

Radiation isnt a problem really. You are thinking nukes give off radiation like chernobyl, but they dont. The government set off plenty of nukes 100 miles away from vegas and people still live there ok.