How is Trump going to attempt to fix this market?

[Tsing Tao]

I think the fed should've been rising rates from '15 or so. The fed did feel was giving Obama a pass

I'd say more like '12.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Oh my, what am I reading? Someone suggests our president commits suicide? How dare one human being suggest another one do such a thing? No outrage from the resident "centrists" either. No doubt that will be forthcoming. You fucking lefties make this too easy pointing out your utter bullshit. Work on it.

Huh? Who said that?

 

[Tsing Tao]

I am not arguing that raising rates slows down the economy. I know it could have that effect.

I am stating you have no idea what you are talking about with respect to the fed printing money. You realize they create money don't you? Money supply is independent of demand. If it were othewise we would not have had massive inflation over the last few years. With the dollar being the world currency and the world economy expanding, the dollar should be massively stronger if supply were not independent of demand. (In other words they overwhelmed demand with supply creating inflation.) We should not have experienced massive inflation over the decades but we did. Why? supply.

The Fed is always creating money. It's just a measure of the percentage in which they do so, and "where" they do it.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/current/default.htm

 

[Cuddles]

I am not arguing that raising rates slows down the economy. I know it could have that effect.

I am stating you have no idea what you are talking about with respect to the fed printing money. You realize they create money don't you? Money supply is independent of demand. If it were othewise we would not have had massive inflation over the last few years. With the dollar being the world currency and the world economy expanding, the dollar should be massively stronger if supply were not independent of demand. (In other words they overwhelmed demand with supply creating inflation.) We should not have experienced massive inflation over the decades but we did. Why? supply.

Someone has no idea what they're talking about alright

 

[TJustice]

Once again a leftist can not back up his claims. Particularly when it comes to economics. So he goes with clown like insults.

Why not just admit you have no idea if the Federal Reserve is creating money right now.

Someone has no idea what they're talking about alright

 

[Nine_Ender]

Once again a leftist can not back up his claims. Particularly when it comes to economics. So he goes with clown like insults.

Why not just admit you have no idea if the Federal Reserve is creating money right now.

You are delusional and a bit of a clown on economic policy. You lack the self awareness to know why this is obvious. The "leftist" conspiracy theories don't help your cause either on being taken seriously.

 

[TJustice]

Why don't you tell us how here4money knows that when interest rates are going up the FED is not creating money?

You don't need self awareness to understand that interest rates rising and the printing of money are independent functions or can be.

In fact in inflationary environments interest rates have a tendency to rise because lenders know they are going to be paid back with diluted currency.

Once again we see talking economics with lefties is almost fruitless. They don't seem to be able to think in systems.

You are delusional and a bit of a clown on economic policy. You lack the self awareness to know why this is obvious. The "leftist" conspiracy theories don't help your cause either on being taken seriously.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Why don't you tell us how here4money knows that when interest rates are going up the FED is not creating money?

You don't need self awareness to understand that interest rates rising and the printing of money are independent functions or can be.

In fact in inflationary environments interest rates have a tendency to rise because lenders know they are going to be paid back with diluted currency.

Once again we see talking economics with lefties is almost fruitless. They don't seem to be able to think in systems.

Once again you talk about lefties and the supposed solutions provided by "printing money". I know far more about designing systems then you will ever know. Objective measures of inflation are extremely low right now. You need to stop posting fanatical abstract ideas and look at what the real numbers are. Stop assuming what "they" are doing.

 

[TJustice]

None of that was responsive to the simple question we were discussing. No way you could be designing working systems and not be able answer a simple question with a direct answer.

Tell us how here4money could know if the FED is creating money right now?

Once again you talk about lefties and the supposed solutions provided by "printing money". I know far more about designing systems then you will ever know. Objective measures of inflation are extremely low right now. You need to stop posting fanatical abstract ideas and look at what the real numbers are. Stop assuming what "they" are doing.

 

[TJustice]

Thanks for the links to M1 and M2.

I know you know that the FED ceased reporting M3 about 13 years ago.

https://mises.org/library/death-m3-fifth-anniversary

At least M3 gave us an idea about the expansion of the money supply if we tracked it from report to report.

a chart from the article...

The Fed is always creating money. It's just a measure of the percentage in which they do so, and "where" they do it.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/current/default.htm