How is Trump going to attempt to fix this market?

How is Trump going to attempt to fix this market?

  • Capitulate on China/tariffs

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Double down on China/tariffs

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Print more money

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Fire Navarro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fire Muchin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tweet "it's the best market in human history"

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Blame Obama

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Go after immigrants

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
For perspective: Today's "crash".

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It totally makes sense. The Fed created this in the beginning (under previous administrations with Bernanke and Yellen). What Powell is doing now needs to be done. But like a heroin addict, there will first be a fit of withdrawal and a lot of pain before it is deemed "healthy" again. But this doesn't have anything to do with Trump (apart from appointing Powell) and it had nothing to do with Obama either.

Still, I think Trump blames the Fed, and Obama.

You misunderstand me. Raising rates make sense, what the other poster is saying makes no sense (to tell the fed to stop printing money when he already is) is what I was responding to.
 
It totally makes sense. The Fed created this in the beginning (under previous administrations with Bernanke and Yellen). What Powell is doing now needs to be done. But like a heroin addict, there will first be a fit of withdrawal and a lot of pain before it is deemed "healthy" again. But this doesn't have anything to do with Trump (apart from appointing Powell) and it had nothing to do with Obama either.

Still, I think Trump blames the Fed, and Obama.

Every president wants cheap money... leads to rising stock and RE markets, growing economy (even if inflationary), and happy feelings. Doesn't matter about deficits and the growing national debt... that's a problem desired to be left to the next administration (perpetually?). Trump's no different.... whining like a little girl about it. If the Fed tightens, as it probably should, it puts Trump administration at risk. Should surprise nobody.

Trump would like to see the Fed remain "loose and friendly" until after the 2020 election, of course. Powell says, "... his Fed will not be political..." (no matter how much Trump whines?). We'll see.
 
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You misunderstand me. Raising rates make sense, what the other poster is saying makes no sense (to tell the fed to stop printing money when he already is) is what I was responding to.

Ah, my mistake. I apologize.

But the Fed printing money was under many other administrations. At least now, they're doing the right thing (though Trump again has nothing to do with it short of appointing the Chairman).

If Trump had thought this through, he would have put Powell in place knowing he would do this, and let him know that he'd be a fall guy for it, but it had to be done.
 
If Trump had thought this through, he would have put Powell in place knowing he would do this, and let him know that he'd be a fall guy for it, but it had to be done.

Geez, would Powell (or anybody) take the job* knowing it was already planned that he'd be the chump, regardless??

I'm of the mind that Powell is doing the right thing for a number of reasons... like you said, "has to be done".

Kudlow spewing, "Trump not dictating policy to the Fed". Really? Sounds like he's trying to.

(*Always possible... Trump DID tell Powell he'd publicly be the scapegoat, and Trumpy's whining is just theater. Gotta be careful what you believe these days.)
 
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Oh my, what am I reading? Someone suggests our president commits suicide? How dare one human being suggest another one do such a thing? No outrage from the resident "centrists" either. No doubt that will be forthcoming. You fucking lefties make this too easy pointing out your utter bullshit. Work on it.
 
What you wrote makes zero sense. Interest rates are independent of Federal Reserve Money creation.


Do you realize the Federal Reserves creates money by the trillions with electronic key strokes.

You have no idea if they are creating money right now because they don't tell us.

Raising the interest rate IS ceasing the printing of money, so telling the fed to do something he's already doing makes no sense. Not to mention Trump wants to do the opposite (print more money and keep interest rates low).
 
Ah, my mistake. I apologize.

But the Fed printing money was under many other administrations. At least now, they're doing the right thing (though Trump again has nothing to do with it short of appointing the Chairman).

If Trump had thought this through, he would have put Powell in place knowing he would do this, and let him know that he'd be a fall guy for it, but it had to be done.

I think the fed should've been rising rates from '15 or so. The fed did feel was giving Obama a pass
 
What you wrote makes zero sense. Interest rates are independent of Federal Reserve Money creation.


Do you realize the Federal Reserves creates money by the trillions with electronic key strokes.

You have no idea if they are creating money right now because they don't tell us.

Supply and demand, fed says rates go up, demand/printing dries up. Fed says rates go down, demand/printing goes up.
 
I am not arguing that raising rates slows down the economy. I know it could have that effect.

I am stating you have no idea what you are talking about with respect to the fed printing money. You realize they create money don't you? Money supply is independent of demand. If it were othewise we would not have had massive inflation over the last few years. With the dollar being the world currency and the world economy expanding, the dollar should be massively stronger if supply were not independent of demand. (In other words they overwhelmed demand with supply creating inflation.) We should not have experienced massive inflation over the decades but we did. Why? supply.


Supply and demand, fed says rates go up, demand/printing dries up. Fed says rates go down, demand/printing goes up.
 
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