How do you value vol?

@TheBigShort, thanks for your reply in this thread. I have a supplemental question. How often do you create these models for a particular instrument? I mean the models probably change everyday very slightly if you consider even the EOD data. Is it the idea to have them automated so that they run everyday and alert on a set criteria? How many underlying to watch and create similar models? I know the answer to the last question is subjective; still wanted to know your thoughts.
I dont do anything fancy. I get a data set and create a dependent variable and independent variables. I then try to use simple (mostly linear) models to help me predict the dependent variable. The edge comes from good independent variables and good transformations. Once I get my coefficients I dont change them. Usually because I'm using like 10 years of data
 
Ok thanks. I am not familiar with linear models. Let me investigate that a little bit.
Linear regression like OLS is a linear model. You can do better by using ridge,lasso, robust etc... one thing that I have learned from a member on this board that has helped me out is, try and get your dependent variable IID(independent and identically distributed) and make sure your independent variables are stationary (demeaning or scaling).

With this in mind dont get caught up in all the fancy BS Marcos Lopez de Prado talks about.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler"
 
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Linear regression like OLS is a linear model. You can do better by using ridge,lasso, robust etc... one thing that I have learned from a member on this board that has helped me out is, try and get your dependent variable IID(independent and identically distributed) and make sure your independent variables are stationary (demeaning or scaling).

Genuine question TBS - does any of this mathematical modelling have a measureable effect on increasing your profitability?
 
There are algos like Historic Volatility and then there are simple algos like Highest High minus Lowest Low over a period of time. Finally, there is VIX.
Which does everyone use to help set their stop loss points ? With recent volatility, fixed stops have been getting decimated IMHO.
 
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Genuine question TBS - does any of this mathematical modeling have a measureable effect on increasing your profitability?
Firstly, nothing I do is complex. Simple things like linear regression is 90% of what I do. Things like PCA, scaling etc..are used to transform variables.

To answer the question. It helps me A LOT. Let's say for example I am trying to figure out what the variance risk premium is likely to be in the future for SPX. How would I do it without some type of mathematics or data science?

Here is one of Blair Hull's employees on how they try to forecast the equity risk premium.
. If you don't want to watch the video you can read the paper. I am not saying what they are doing is right but I use that sort of idea for my stuff.

What I am curious about is how do you trade without doing any modeling?
 
What I am curious about is how do you trade without doing any modeling?

I model using ONE software - this may be laughable to someone who likes to wrestle with differential calculus, but it's pragmatic.

I can drive a BMW car, and all I need to know is how it handles under various conditions of rain, wind, slippery roads, bends, hills etc. I do not need to understand the thermodynamics of the engine, nor the heat dissipation functionality behind it - I don't even need to know what the letters BMW stand for.

I'm not questioning the advanced quant theorams - I just want to know how useful the mathematical analysis is in terms of $$$. And where. I await the day when someone on ET gives a real-life trade example where quant analysis improved the profit figure.

What I am curious about is how do you trade without doing any modeling?
Second answer - quite successfully. As you know, one of my portfolios is trading the strategies learnt from a subscription service - for Jan and Feb, I had remarkable success (34% and 31% return on portfolio) trading earnings calendars. And for those trades I didn't even need ONE.

But as they say, different strokes for different folks.

Happy trading.
 
As you know, one of my portfolios is trading the strategies learnt from a subscription service
IIRC, this was steadyOptions software you were using. I thought he buys options into earnings yet I see you have mentioned trading post-earnings quite a few times (double calendars).

this may be laughable to someone who likes to wrestle with differential calculus
LOL I am not very smart when you compare me to others in this field (and on this board). Its actually super basic stuff.

I'm not questioning the advanced quant theorams - I just want to know how useful the mathematical analysis is in terms of $$$. And where. I await the day when someone on ET gives a real-life trade example where quant analysis improved the profit figure.
Give me a few hours, I will do an example. Hopefully I will be able to get some criticsm from others. Spoiler alert* there will be no quant theorems. Just simple statistics while using financial knowledge.
 
IIRC, this was steadyOptions software you were using. I thought he buys options into earnings yet I see you have mentioned trading post-earnings quite a few times (double calendars).

You are correct. SO mainly trades pre-earnings. I run numerous portfolios (SO strategies, short selling, commodities, futures, currencies etc), one of which is based on the SO calendars. The post-earnings double cals were my own ideas in a different portfolio.
 
You are correct. SO mainly trades pre-earnings. I run numerous portfolios (SO strategies, short selling, commodities, futures, currencies etc), one of which is based on the SO calendars. The post-earnings double cals were my own ideas in a different portfolio.
Who is SO?
 
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