How do you stop deflation?

Quote from Susannah:

Oil is good to look at to gauge inflation, pretty much most of the commodities are.

I agree that gold is too finicky to rely on, but right after an oil shock has it's own set of problems since it takes time for the demand destruction it leaves behind to play out.

IMHO, shadowstats CPI feels right even if it isn't perfect.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
 
Quote from jprad:

Either you need to start proof-reading what you write, or you need stronger meds. (I'm leaning towards the later...)

Here's what you posted:

"When prices stay artificially high, consumption and investment is held back. Shit is too expensive relative to income. IOW, the debt-to-income or cost-to-income ratio is too high. Prices need to deflate if wages stay stagnant."

Tell us, Mr. MacroEconomic Wizard, how the fuck do prices that were "artificially high" deflate and "come up" relative to stagnant wages?

Oh Man. You're too funny.

It was SARCASM, JPAD.

You know, like when you said "Right prices have to come down relative to wages, makes perfect sense." Thats sarcasm.

As was my response to you.
 
Quote from gnome:

How to stop deflation? Don't promote the bubble which leads to deflation.

Seems most folks would rather be "part of the club" and debate esoteric money mechanics that have shit-to-do-with-shit with solving the actual problem.

Just window dressing and signets that imbue the illusion of power and understanding.

At the end of the day, the problem - and solution - are simple.
 
Quote from jprad:

Sarcasm? After that rant?

Right...

BTW, it's jprad you dyslexic twit.

This is the 4th time you've needed explanation of the obvious, Maxi-Pad.

Colloquial English seems the least of your worries. Although the most embarrassing, to be sure.
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Quote from Sandybestdog:

Why would you want to stop deflation? It gives the little guy a chance to catch up. Our worthless fiat currency got us into this mess, now you want to fix the problem by creating more of it.

Quote from Susannah:

That would be true, except that the little guy will lose his job and has no savings for the most part in the US. There's the crux.


Why would the little guy loose his job? What’s the unemployment rate in Zimbabwe? Why do we have this notion that unless we print money like crazy the economy will crash? We keep hearing that we need to let businesses get loans so they can by products and pay employees (i.e. print more money). Why can’t they pay for that in cash? Sales are down at where I work now, but they’re still making a profit. They don’t need to borrow money to pay me. It’s true that the little guy might get paid the same or a little less, but all of his expenses and cost of living would go down.

Wages never keep up with inflation. That’s how the Man screws you. Companies are reluctant to pay employees more when the cost of livng goes up, but they hardly ever cut wages during deflation. Companies don’t want news reports that they are cutting wages, but nobody will care if they don’t increase wages during inflationary booms.

There is a negative savings rate because in this so called rich, free country, it is so damn expensive to live. If inflation is 5% a year and wages only go up 2%, you’re getting screwed 3% a year. Multiply that times 30 years of massive inflation, and the average persons real wages are down probably 50%. How much do you expect people to save when their incomes are being eroded? Inflation erodes savings as well, so what’s the point of saving when a dollar today won’t be worth a dollar tomorrow? Inflation is probably the greatest economic scam ever invented by the Man.
 
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