How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

If having knowledge of cause and effect is blasphemy and sacrilege to your religion then I suppose I'm guilty as charged. Good thing LIEbral atheism is not my religion nor the law of the land.

you know "cause and effect" how? by reading 2000+ year old books written by men who thought thunder and lightening were god speaking?
 
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so you think its a conspiricy to exclude believers. you do realize that any scientist who could come up with any evidence pointing toward a god would be world famous?

And you my friend fail to appreciate the humor we find in so called experts finally discovering basically what we've known all along.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Evidently by being a little brighter than you at picking up concepts, but don't worry your time will come.
you are evading the question. when you base your life on a fear shouldnt you at least be able to explain it in a cogent manner?
 
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And you my friend fail to appreciate the humor we find in so called experts finally discovering basically what we've known all along.
name one thing about the supernatural aspect of christianity that scientists conceded you were right about.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

faith is not a determinate in science. who teaches you guys this stuff?

I never said that. You are so intent on proving your superior intellect that you are incapable of listening to the other side and understanding what he said. Instead, you throw up a straw man and argue with yourself, just so that you can feel smarter than everyone else. Meanwhile, everyone else just rolls their eyes as you revel in your self righteousness.
 
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no just like 98% of christians i was born into christianity. my parents believed so they had me indoctrinated from the beginning.
you dont know much about christianity if you dont think fear is the main driver.
You still don't get it do you ?
I said you think "fear is what drives people to god"?
I contend that's not true.

Then you said it was a common indoctrination tool and it was used on you.

Using you as a case in point the tool didn't match with the drive, and now you are a bitter atheist.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

you are evading the question. when you base your life on a fear shouldnt you at least be able to explain it in a cogent manner?

Please show me where I have given credence to fear is what drives people to god?


Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

:D :D :D :eek:

And you think "fear is what drives people to god"?

Perhaps you and the islamofascist's have more in common than you care to admit.

Rational people reading the above post would correctly presume I don't.

You are the one who keeps inventing positions for me: how about not trying to be a liberal piece of shit for once, you might learn something.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

You still don't get it do you ?
I said you think "fear is what drives people to god"?
I contend that's not true.

Then you said it was a common indoctrination tool and it was used on you.

Using you as a case in point the tool didn't match with the drive, and now you are a bitter atheist.

do i have to repeat the question? you know cause and effect how?
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Please show me where I have given credence to fear is what drives people to god?




Rational people reading the above post would correctly presume I don't.

You are the one who keeps inventing positions for me: how about not trying to be a liberal piece of shit for once, you might learn something.
why is it that so called christian are the ones who so easily resort to profanity? you, jem, 666 all bible thumpers and some of the crudest people on et. just saying.....


cognitive dissonance — the intellectual crisis that occurs when a failed belief system or philosophy is confronted with proof of its implausibility. ...
 
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