How do you determine daily profit target?

but you have to figure out what is the common denominator for HFT programmers.
I think you have a great point here. So what exactly is this common denominator?

But, seriously, OP seems to make no more than 10 trades in a day. How is HFT, which flips on a dime, affecting his trades in anyway?
 
Thought I was on elitetrader.com not hobbytrader.com

...My mistake
So....

"The bad news is that this known fact is: Your account balance will eventually reach zero."

Isn't a fact, it's a highly probable out come, but it's not a FACT!!

He could get hit by a bus before it gets to Zero, see ha!

Yah-yah we get it - Some folks like to knit, you like to trade
 
Thought I was on elitetrader.com not hobbytrader.com

...My mistake


Yah-yah we get it - Some folks like to knit, you like to trade

Trading covers the cost of my mountain biking and climbing hobbies.

It's a good hobby, but would drive me crazy full time, but it's there as an option if/when required.
 
It's a horrible hobby, playing with money. If my life was so un-interesting that playing with money were my most interesting option of activities, I'd probably end it.

Interesting, on a trading forum where I assume you err trade with the aim of doing it for a living, 1 day if ever you get good enough right ?? We could class that until your profitable and full time as also a HOBBY could we not ?

I have many hobbies, it's the hobby I spend the least time on, to busy when the trading is good :(

Spending $3000+ on a mountain bike hell no, unless it's trading profits then I view it as well a free bike and what the hell, if I had to work for it, I'd never waste that kinda money on toys.
 
How do you determine daily profit target for 1 ES contract? Also, would your odds be better simply trading 2 contracts with that same target so your in the market less?

And how do you guys deal with bad days, do you have trade number limit before quitting? Do you have a daily loss limit?

povstanets,

Please explain why or how you made the decision to trade the S&P 500 Emini ES futures versus trading any other trading instrument ?
 
If you trade 2 contracts you can lose twice as much - agree?

You want to set a daily target in a market where BIG corporations spend millions and millions of dollars to develop automated trading to take minute profits every few seconds - are you really sure you want to take on these people with a few textbooks and a few dollars in your account!

And now you are talking about being down 12 points in a day!!!!!!!!

What might help you, is, think of a river, and how water can not flow up, but can meander in and out of all the crevasses as it finds its way down to the ocean.

This is not a futures chart, but it is close enough to give you an idea of what you might be better off looking at, as I have no idea what you are looking at now to come up with throwing away 12 ES points per day to the real professionals - for, the ES is their home ground and they don't think twice about beheading the small little retail traders who decide to pay madame guillotine a visit :)

Hope this helps you come to your senses?

As for bad days - never let them happen, every day is a trading day - win or lose!

J_S

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What Market Data Subscriptions do I need to have such a screen on my PC? I was asking the same question in a new thread: http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...ount-what-market-data-required-for-es.296389/
 
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