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How Do We Deal With Guys Like Thad Cochran?
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As an outside observer, I think a 3rd party would be extremely beneficial for many aspect of American life and society.
Yeah... it will help democraps stay in power long enough to complete Obama's fundamental transformation of America.
I've never supported a third party because the rules are so stacked in favor of the two existing parties, it seems hopeless. Plus, as 666 observes, it would likely hand democrats more victories.
Lately, I have to say I am reconsidering. The republican establishment seems to be at war with their presumed constituents. We are seeing a reemergence of the eastern liberal country club republicans,eg Christie, Romney, Boehner, Ryan, etal. These guys could easily be moderate democrats, but for the fact the democrat party does not allow any moderates now. It is one thing to have differences within a caucus. It offends me when they actively work to undermine a competing party faction however.
Immigration is the obvious fault line. It is like the slavery issue in the mid 1800's, bitterly divisive and not subject to agreeable compromise. I also fault the establishment republicans for not having the backbone to stand with Ted Cruz and fight obamacare to the end. Their leadership has been even weaker than Obama's, as hard as that is to believe.
I think a libertarian populist constitutionalist third party with its focus on the south and west would quickly relegate the republicans to third place. Whether they could compete nationally with the democrats is an interesting question, but really it doesn't make all that much difference if they can't. If the choice is Christie or Jeb Bush or Hillary, I can't get too worked up about the outcome. All will be terrible and work diligently to further ruin our country.
Lately, I have to say I am reconsidering. The republican establishment seems to be at war with their presumed constituents. We are seeing a reemergence of the eastern liberal country club republicans,eg Christie, Romney, Boehner, Ryan, etal. These guys could easily be moderate democrats, but for the fact the democrat party does not allow any moderates now. It is one thing to have differences within a caucus. It offends me when they actively work to undermine a competing party faction however.
Immigration is the obvious fault line. It is like the slavery issue in the mid 1800's, bitterly divisive and not subject to agreeable compromise. I also fault the establishment republicans for not having the backbone to stand with Ted Cruz and fight obamacare to the end. Their leadership has been even weaker than Obama's, as hard as that is to believe.
I think a libertarian populist constitutionalist third party with its focus on the south and west would quickly relegate the republicans to third place. Whether they could compete nationally with the democrats is an interesting question, but really it doesn't make all that much difference if they can't. If the choice is Christie or Jeb Bush or Hillary, I can't get too worked up about the outcome. All will be terrible and work diligently to further ruin our country.
Yep, that's sort of my point...
The Tea Party is facing a reasonably simple choice, IMHO. Either they sacrifice some or all of their principles to achieve a compromise with the Republican establishment and the business lobby. Or they go their own way. The idea that the Tea Party could somehow change the Republican Party from within is a pipe dream.
The Tea Party is facing a reasonably simple choice, IMHO. Either they sacrifice some or all of their principles to achieve a compromise with the Republican establishment and the business lobby. Or they go their own way. The idea that the Tea Party could somehow change the Republican Party from within is a pipe dream.
Six months ago I might have disagreed with you, but I am sick of these guys and their games.
We need a general realignment of the parties. The dems on the left, the republicans as the corporate country club set and militarists, the Tea Party as the rest.
I would love to see that. Totally support it.
In my experience most country clubs are filled with small business owners, doctors and lawyers and accountants. True, in the expensive areas you will find some crony members and and a whole group of members who suck off the cronies....but the cronies themselves are not in the same category as the lying prostitute politicians.
Lets not disparage country clubs by associating them with those traitors.
Lets not disparage country clubs by associating them with those traitors.