How do large firms and pros place orders?

Quote from NoDoji:

ARCA reserve. Fortunately the stock gained 20% in a couple days, so the slippage on the buy didn't bother me so much after that.
good effort... ARCA reserve has saved my neck a couple of times too...
 
Quote from Scalper007:

Hmmmm. So lets say someone has 1 mil shares to buy at $11 and price is now at 11.50. So someone will just give it to this guy bidding secretly at 11? i would assume its someone who is desperate to get out 1 mil shares because the market price is 50 cents higher!!

Is this how it works?

And is this why we see prints below and above the current market price?

If it's all hidden, how would the counter party know that there is a $11, 1 million share bid?

Is it true that under current REG MNS, trades can only be executed at NBBO or within NBBO?
 
Energy blocks get done OTC.

Interest rate blocks usually get done as OTC depending upon the particulars of the swap construction.

The OTC brokers typically have their customers on a dedicated land line (squawk) and/or an IM system.

Counterparties need to be ISDA listed or have the trades run through Clearport or ICE depending upon the flavor. For bilateral trades the counterparties typically have 'bonafides' on file with each other which includes contractual agreements (think liens or promissory notes) and lines of credit.

That is all.
 
Quote from chasedream:

Is it true that under current REG MNS, trades can only be executed at NBBO or within NBBO?

The REG NMS doesn't protect anything. I still see trades going off above and below NBBO. It's all a hoax..
 
Quote from Scalper007:

The REG NMS doesn't protect anything. I still see trades going off above and below NBBO. It's all a hoax..

RegNMS protects top-of-book quotes during RTH only. You can easily take the best bids on all 11 market centers and send the rest down to NYSE sweeping the book down $1 if you want to.
 
Quote from chasedream:

Is it true that under current REG MNS, trades can only be executed at NBBO or within NBBO?

No. A delta neutral trade (prefectly hedged trade) can be priced outside of the (N)BBO; i.e. multilegged option trades tied with Stocks.
 
Quote from chasedream:

Is it true that under current REG MNS, trades can only be executed at NBBO or within NBBO?

No, it is not true.

Your statement is only true in a general sense. The rule has very many different exceptions allowing trades to be executed outside the NBBO. You should find the SEC site, find the rule on that site, and study it.
 
Quote from jimrockford:

No, it is not true.

Your statement is only true in a general sense. The rule has very many different exceptions allowing trades to be executed outside the NBBO. You should find the SEC site, find the rule on that site, and study it.
Good point. You gotta study the rules in order to make money on the loopholes.
 
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