How do illegals get free healthcare?

[fkbsuhites]

Don't worry. With the republicans fighting hard to keep things the same, nothing will change for the better.

Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

What to hear something Crazy. My Dog went to A cardiologist specialist Vet. Got a Full Echocardiogram and internal view of the heart,arteries etc.. with this high end GE Vivid 7 system, the whole works to drain out fluid from the abdomen etc.. about 2 hours. Consultation the whole works.

580 bucks.

For a Human that same procedure would cost 25K+

Something is wrong with healthcare why are procedures 43x more expensive for humans?

 

[gastropod]

Quote from tmarket:

The following was published in 2006 and it remains the reason that we need some kind of health care reform. Whether it is the current health care bill or other reforms, both parties should work together and not just offer demagoguery.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=57a363b971d43b5c84940e442f9f1a42

This is akin to saying, "I have a problem with my foot...so, I am going to chop off my hand!" Collectivism is NEVER the solution.

Here is what not ONE fucker from either house of Congress (Democrat or Republican) has put out as en example, but it SHOULD be an example:


A doctor prescribes a patient an aspirin for the patient's condition...how will the "NEW" health care system change the cost of the aspirin? NOTE: I am NOT asking, "How will the new health care system change what the patient has to pay for the aspirin?" I am asking how do these new health care plans change the cost of the aspirin? If the fucking answer is, "It does not change the cost of the aspirin (or whatever fucking drug you chose to name here)" then we are being fed a crock pot full of shit!!! ANY, again, ANY fucking sort of "Well it will change what the patient pays for the aspirin" argument is fucking CRAP. There CAN NOT, WILL NOT, COULD NEVER BE A CHANGE TO THE COST OF HEALTH CARE WITHOUT A CHANGE TO THE COST OF THE DIAGNOSIS AND RESOLUTIONS. Anything else is fucking changing the seating arrangement on the deck of the Titanic!!!

NOTE: tmarket - my tirade is NOT against you, but is against ANY thing short of an actual change to the cost of diagnosis and resolutions - not "how much the patient pays for health care"

-gastropod

 

[jficquette]

Quote from Nanook:

United Healthcare owns (9) corporate jets:

(2) Cessna 680
(1) Embraer EMB-135BJ
(1) Dassault Falcon 2000EX
(3) Hawker 800XP
(2) Gulfstream GV-SP

Source: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...?Nametxt=UNITED HEALTH&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

(# of corporate pilots for each is unknown)

Executive annual compensation in the millions: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=UNH

"Our Approach: We're in the business of helping people live healthier lives." http://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/main/Default.aspx

But at what cost are you helping me? (Disclosure: my new company's insurance provider is UNH)

Unless you have had access to a private jet you can't understand how much money you save with them. Much cheaper to maintain a few jets than use the airlines.

 

[OldTrader]

Quote from Nanook:

United Healthcare owns (9) corporate jets:

(2) Cessna 680
(1) Embraer EMB-135BJ
(1) Dassault Falcon 2000EX
(3) Hawker 800XP
(2) Gulfstream GV-SP

Source: http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...?Nametxt=UNITED HEALTH&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

(# of corporate pilots for each is unknown)

Executive annual compensation in the millions: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=UNH

"Our Approach: We're in the business of helping people live healthier lives." http://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/main/Default.aspx

But at what cost are you helping me? (Disclosure: my new company's insurance provider is UNH)

If you can explain to me how the fact that an insurance company has corporate jets has anythng to do with medical costs, I'm all ears. Yeah, it may have something to do with insurance costs. But has literally nothing to do with the underlying medical costs.

By the way, under the proposed new Obamacare, you can expect your insurance premiums to soar....due to things like guaranteed insurability. That won't have a thing to do with underlying medical costs either.

OldTrader

 

[sprstpd]

Quote from failed_trad3r:

because of insurance companies. there is no competition between them, for various reasons. It's the same reason why windows 7 is so expensive. It's a near monopoly

Windows 7 is expensive? Really?

 

[ecritt]

My father had a heart attack two months ago. He was in the hospital for 8 days. Bill: $217,000.

Lots of people have heart attacks. Not very many people have 217k.

 

[Vinny1]

Quote from ecritt:

My father had a heart attack two months ago. He was in the hospital for 8 days. Bill: $217,000.

Lots of people have heart attacks. Not very many people have 217k.

Was he insured?

 

[tamaharbor]

We should just let the poor, stupid people die. Darwin would have wanted it that way.

 

[zdreg]

Quote from tamaharbor:

We should just let the poor, stupid people die. Darwin would have wanted it that way.

except if it is your family of course.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from tamaharbor:
We should just let the poor, stupid people die. Darwin would have wanted it that way.

Quote from zdreg:
except if it is your family of course.

I think he was talking about YOU zdreg.