How do famous swing traders like Dan Zanger size up so fast?

That's your prerogative to think so. I can't disagree more.

No disrespect, but I am exhasusted of this comment/argument. This statement is just true for being excellent at anything. Trading is not special, it's arguably lame in the pantheon of things to be excellent at.
 
On average those who later dropped out did ok while in the program. But there was also selection bias. Dennis and Eckhardt did not just throw darts on the wall as far as I recall.
Very True I agree...concerning selection they favored people with backgrounds in gambling and chess.

Edit: the above obviously supports your first statement as gamblers and chess players (should) know risk very well. Interesting man you made a strong point.
 
Show me someone with audited records who made 20% every single year the past 10-15 years and not just holding onto long positions. I am absolutely convinced that my performance continues even if the market overall would tank for multiple years. I never sat on stock grants a minute longer than I was required to, nor did I get them at a discount. I said that the generated pnl was strictly from retail based trading, not equities though. And I never said I am special, probably rare though.

Cmon Bro,if you are a director and above,forced to take 25% of your comp and put in in company stock at a 25% discount ( raging bull market),anyone could retire at 45..

Not an insult,I did the exact same thing,and Im nothing special :)
 
Thats pretty dam good

Well done my friend!



I would consider traders presented by Schwager to be legit, to give an example. I started with about a 1 mil account and currently am sitting on around 12.5 million. I don't walk around to monetize that or teach others. Hence I don't consider it my responsibility to have to provide any evidence to anyone. But I believe it should be the absolute minimum requirement to prove claimed success for anyone who charges money to teach others, whether directly through fee arrangements, or youtube views.
 
I would normally agree, except tax returns in Sweden are public (if you pay a small fee). There are references online in Swedish publications to a youngish male taxpayer who paid around $30 million in CG tax in 2021, and someone on this board claimed to have paid for the records and confirmed that said taxpayer was KK.

Alright, say the money is actual but the strategy he outlined and the rules he uses still don't fit the scene. I'm not claiming the strategy is a loser, i'm saying it's physically impossible to reach these returns in this time period. So, either he used a very aggressive approach and had tons of luck, trades inside information or made the money some other way. Markets just don't move that much. I understand this was in the period of covid, so volatility was definitely supporting this but still...i'm sceptical :)
 
I would consider traders presented by Schwager to be legit, to give an example. I started with about a 1 mil account and currently am sitting on around 12.5 million. I don't walk around to monetize that or teach others. Hence I don't consider it my responsibility to have to provide any evidence to anyone. But I believe it should be the absolute minimum requirement to prove claimed success for anyone who charges money to teach others, whether directly through fee arrangements, or youtube views.
Sounds nice. Good job. We'll get a steak in 3 years when I'm there too.
 
I would consider traders presented by Schwager to be legit, to give an example. I started with about a 1 mil account and currently am sitting on around 12.5 million.
And how much of that was from ACTUAL trading your personal account and how much was deposits from your day job? And to be clear,you dont trade stocks at all? And I'll be shocked and stunned if Kris isn't the opening chapter in the next Schwager book.
 
And I say, good on you, to be sceptical. Not impossible but highly unlikely unless inane risk was taken. For every 1000 completely burned accounts there is one who got the timing, sizing, holding, exactly right, but highly likely not due to skill but luck.

Alright, say the money is actual but the strategy he outlined and the rules he uses still don't fit the scene. I'm not claiming the strategy is a loser, i'm saying it's physically impossible to reach these returns in this time period. So, either he used a very aggressive approach and had tons of luck, trades inside information or made the money some other way. Markets just don't move that much. I understand this was in the period of covid, so volatility was definitely supporting this but still...i'm sceptical :)
 
I don't trade equities. The only time I touched cash equity was to delta adjust positions at my professional job in the past. The original funding came of course from part of my savings that originated from corporate compensation. I never deposited nor withdrew a single dollar from my account after the initial deposit. Every dollar of returns was reinvested at the beginning of the next annual cycle.

Enough about me, I am not stating this to show off in any way or fashion. The only reason I chimed in is because I find the bullshit that is touted on YouTube and so easily believed by so many to be upsetting because it completely targets emotions and leaves intellect and logic completely out of the question.

And how much of that was from ACTUAL trading your personal account and how much was deposits from your day job? And to be clear,you dont trade stocks at all? And I'll be shocked and stunned if Kris isn't the opening chapter in the next Schwager book.
 
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