How did you do for 2011?

Quote from bwolinsky:

Though easy, the candlestick optimizations aren't good methods, and I don't have to do any backtests to prove that to me, but as long as it goes without saying I already know that those methods are not useful and they are really the best examples of curve fitting out there. You shouldn't depend on them at all because the candlestick methods some naieve institutions use to find trading strategies do not have any predictive power. I've seen optimizations of such methods, and they do not ever produce edge beyond 65%, and if your win percentages are less than that there are far better things to devote your time to than candlestick charts and backtests. It is overly simplistic, but just as CNBC anchors point out all of the useless statistics about what percentage moves mean in terms of future price changes they don't have any sound methodology to perform anything that I would call a highly robust backtest.

If you move past the candlestick chart curve fitting methods, you'll find edges if you are creative enough with your analyses, because I already know that this is like chasing momentum and the Hershits methods tell you to do this but it doesn't work, so do not expect such methods to ever be profitable long term as I already know those particular methodologies are inherently flawed and have been shown to be unprofitable long term.

Please don't think I'm trying to be discouraging, because only a quant like mind will ever produce edge long term, and while I don't think it can be taught the mathematical aptitudes applicable to statistical analysis require much more thought than the ones you are optimizing for.

Oh, I certainly plan to keep looking.

Optimizing the candlesticks isn't effective. I've coded all of this, forcing the code to look for certain candle patterns. This doesn't work. The simplistic approach is most effective. Green:Long; Red: short; hold for 2.5 candles. Greatest draw down occurs, of course, on a long pattern of: red, green, red, green, red, green ....

Anyhow, BWOL, there is a certain entertainment value to trading now, even if I am losing, it adds a little color to the learning process and my greater research.

Be patient with me; I'll get there. You've been at this for many years. I'm just getting started.
 
Quote from FreakofNature:

No, sold business.

Shouldnt have :(

FoN

FreakOfNature, honest advise: trade small if you are trying to figure out what your nitche is. Trade very very small until you can consinstently make money. Again. Very.. very small.

-gariki
 
Quote from oldtime:

what the heck is it with you kids anyway? Percentage means everything. I can make 7 figures easy in T Bills if I start with enough.

otherwise, I raised three kids from grade school to college and my highwater mark was 160k. Now that was some trading (until I finally blew up.)

Unless you are already set with a 7-8 figure account, who cares about percentage.

Can anyone here who quoted their gains in percentage terms actually claim to live soley off their trading gains? More likely a side investment account before they go "full time"? You do this on your own coin, you can only think in terms of absolute dollars and income. Bills don't get paid on percentages.
 
Quote from atticus:

Hahahahaha!

Care to wager? The loser drinks one quart of gasoline. I don't care if you/i vomit it out, but you/i need to swallow the entire thing. Failure to do so results in removal of one limb. And the process/event will be video recorded and made available right here.
 
Quote from bhardy307:



Anyhow, BWOL, there is a certain entertainment value to trading now, even if I am losing, it adds a little color to the learning process and my greater research.

Don't take this the wrong way, but there's no reason to trade unless you are making money.

What's Warren Buffet's Second Rule of Investing?

If you know it then there isn't any point to trade for entertainment value. The only reason to trade is to make money, so do not think the loons who claim to hold stock for 20 years then lose it all when the bankruptcy hits aren't crazy, because they are.

No matter how entertaining there's not enough pizaz for me to go on tilt on every trade unless I know I have an edge. If it's entertainment then forget the entertainment of losing money and pick up books to entertain you about daytrading. You'll probably find a lot of the topics you've discussed in threads on ET have already been discussed ad nauseum.
 
Quote from arbs-r-us:

Care to wager? The loser drinks one quart of gasoline. I don't care if you/i vomit it out, but you/i need to swallow the entire thing. Failure to do so results in removal of one limb.

You've already fagged on two bets. I don't need to wager to know you're fos.
 
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