How Covid Lies Are we up to now?

much better? ...

very few were hospitalized.

that low result could be random or some people who were so sick they could not get the vax.


but like the trend we see in the data from Isreal, the recent studies shows the protection from vaccines fading quickly on a relative basis.

That is real data...cdc or nih study has been shared here by me.
And let's take a look at the prison situation which serves to prove why vaccination is so important.

Study of Delta in a small confined population. Note the vaccinated fared much better against hospitalization and death.


Delta variant outbreak infects highly vaccinated prison population, but few were hospitalized, CDC says

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/cdc...d-prison-population-but-few-hospitalized.html
  • The coronavirus delta variant ripped through a federal prison in Texas over the summer, infecting both the unvaccinated and fully vaccinated populations but few were hospitalized, according to a CDC report.
  • Among the 233 incarcerated people at the prison, which wasn’t named, 185, or 79%, were fully vaccinated against Covid19.
  • From July through August, 172 incarcerated people, or 74% of the federal prison’s population, were infected with Covid, according to the CDC.
The fast-spreading delta variant ripped through a federal prison in Texas over the summer, infecting both the unvaccinated and fully vaccinated populations, but few were hospitalized, according to a report published Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Among the 233 incarcerated people at the prison, which wasn’t named, 185, or 79%, were fully vaccinated against Covid19, according to the new report, published in the agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

From July through August, 172 incarcerated people, or 74% of the federal prison’s population, were infected with Covid, according to the CDC. The delta variant hit the unvaccinated harder, the agency said, infecting 39 out of the 42 prisoners who hadn’t gotten the shots. That compares with the 129 infections out of 185 fully vaccinated people.

Four people were hospitalized, three of whom were unvaccinated, and one person died, who was unvaccinated, according to the CDC.


The agency said the report demonstrates the potential for delta variant outbreaks in congregate settings, including correctional and detention facilities, even among places and populations with high vaccination coverage.

“Although attack rates, hospitalizations, and deaths were higher among unvaccinated than among vaccinated persons, duration of positive serial test results was similar for both groups,” the agency wrote in the report.

Vaccinating most of the U.S. population remains critical as the shots are highly effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalizations and deaths, the agency said.

The new report comes as federal health officials urge all Americans to get vaccinated and continue to wear masks indoors, especially in congregated settings, as the highly contagious delta variant spreads across the country.

The U.S. still has a dangerously high number of cases. The nation is reporting an average of more than 138,900 cases per day as of Tuesday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The country is reporting an average of more than 1,900 deaths per day, Johns Hopkins data shows.

Earlier this month, President Joe Biden outlined a broad plan to boost Covid vaccination rates in the U.S., pressuring private employers to immunize their workforce as well as mandating the shots for federal employees, contractors and health-care workers.

The plan includes offering booster shots of Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines to the general population.

A Food and Drug Administration advisory committee on Friday unanimously recommended Pfizer booster shots to people age 65 and older and other vulnerable Americans. A final decision from the agency is expected any day now.
 
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Did you know that John really suffered from Gerd / reflux.. Pepperoni he said it was eh? Just looking at one of his many many YouTube videos where he blathers on and on and yep, the only thing pausing him here and there is a little sick coming up.

Can you believe that in addition to ET he makes a near uncountable number of youtube videos?
 
Now this is interesting.

"A multivariate analysis, in which the results were adjusted to eliminate the influence of factors such as being over 60 and having comorbidities, showed that the risk of being admitted to a hospital intensive care unit was twice the normal risk for patients with acid reflux due to digestive problems. The risk of death was three times as high.'

Makes sense, if you have issues in that area. Increased expression of ACE2 eh? Maybe they are likely to be in the superspreader group and all?

"The lungs are the organs most affected by COVID-19 because the virus accesses host cells via the receptor for the enzyme angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), which is most abundant on the surface of type II alveolar cells of the lungs." but sometimes the throat.

https://agencia.fapesp.br/gastroeso...-of-dying-from-covid-19-study-suggests/34468/
 
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When dealing with future vaccine resistant variants many of us would rather rely on natural immunity.
This is silly double speak. By definition, if there is a "vaccine resistant" variant and that's the only variant that could infect you, then why would you get vaccinated. That's not reality however. Reality is that there is more than one variant that could infect you and the Vaccine is effective against most, or all of the variants. Any person capable of reason under these real circumstances will want to get vaccinated as soon as possible. What's wrong with you? Why are you cluttering our forums with nonsense? Why on Earth aren't you out there trying to encourage everyone who can to get vaccinated against Covid-19?
 
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This is silly double speak. By definition, if there is a "vaccine resistant" variant and that's the only variant that could infect you, then why would you get vaccinated. That's not reality however. Reality is that there is more than one variant that could infect you and the Vaccine is effective against most, or all of the variants. Any person capable of reason under these real circumstances will want to get vaccinated as soon as possible. What's wrong with you? Why are you cluttering our forums with nonsense? Why on Earth aren't you out there trying to encourage everyone who can to get vaccinated against Covid-19?

He doesn't understand if there ever is a Variant of Concern that is "resistant to all the types of vaccines on this planet"...high probability it will also be "resistant" to those that have immunity from a prior Covid infection that was derived from a different variant of interest or a different variant of concern.

If the above happens, its time to pack your RV and move to the mountains in some remote area...live off the land as in its an apocalypse.

wrbtrader
 
Safe sane people know its a risk reward analysis...
:rolleyes: In that case why don't you just go ahead and do that analysis, and then act accordingly. It would be a shame if something bad were to happen to you, but I suppose not much can be done about those very few who jump off a cliff after insisting they will be able to fly using a wing suit sewn out of old bed sheets.
 
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Watch out GWB and other ET trolls, your time to being given your bitter medicine is upon you. At the rate, doctors, nurses, firefighters, police are rising up against the unconstitutional vaccine mandates of Joe Biden and Democrat extreme liberals, gets challenged in court, and if that fails, mass resignations happen, who is going to take care of you assclowns if you catch Corona Virus? I guess the handful of extreme liberal doctors and nurses who are as vile as you. Let us see how that turns out. Hell, they might intubate you to just shut you up when it happens.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...n-battle-over-vaccine-mandates-113650138.html
 
smallfil the Troll,

Just get your recent Covid negative test and stop your crybaby bitching about vaccines. Yet, if you plan to fly by plane to a destination outside of the United States...

You're going to need a vaccine passport and a recent Covid negative test because that's what other countries want of American citizens coming to those countries because those countries do not trust the assclown Covidiots from America...

In contrast, those that are vaccinated are welcome. It's sad to say, many of those countries are now doing the right thing to get their Covid numbers down and they do not want outsiders flying in with opinionated bullshit to disrupt what they've accomplished in 2021 in their fight against Covid.

People like you would have killed off millions in America without Vaccinations and without face mask wear. The fact that you're still able to post here at ET is most likely due to enough people that you interact with were in fact vaccinated and / or wear a face mask.

It's time for you to say thank you to every one of them.

By the way, a Covid test is easy to do.

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wrbtrader
 
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:rolleyes: In that case why don't you just go ahead and do that analysis, and then act accordingly. It would be a shame if something bad were to happen to you, but I suppose not much can be done about those very few who jump off a cliff after insisting they will be able to fly using a wing suit sewn out of old bed sheets.

He has long had a reputation for "Jem's black holes". I don't believe he cares much about the difference between this topic and any other.
 
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