How Could Anyone be Both Christian & Republican?

[heisenbern]

The lowest poverty rates in the world are in Social Democracies. Before Reagan doubled the tax rates in 1982 for anyone making less than $70,000, the USA was in the top five in fighting poverty. Today we are one of the worst.

How do Christians justify being republicans?

9:30 minutes

 

[OddTrader]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 21:28-32

The Parable of the Two Sons

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

Atheists? Believers? Non-believers? ...?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism#The_doctrine_of_.22things_indifferent.22


The doctrine of "things indifferent"

In philosophical terms, things that are indifferent are outside the application of moral law, that is without tendency to either promote or obstruct moral ends. Actions neither required nor forbidden by the moral law, or that do not affect morality, are called morally indifferent. The doctrine of things indifferent (ἀδιάφορα, adiaphora) arose in the Stoic school as a corollary of its diametric opposition of virtue and vice (καθήκοντα kathekon and ἁμαρτήματα hamartemata, respectively "convenient actions," or actions in accordance with nature, and mistakes). As a result of this dichotomy, a large class of objects were left unassigned and thus regarded as indifferent.

Eventually three sub-classes of "things indifferent" developed: things to prefer because they assist life according to nature; things to avoid because they hinder it; and things indifferent in the narrower sense. The principle of adiaphora was also common to the Cynics and Sceptics. The doctrine of things indifferent was revived during the Renaissance by Philipp Melanchthon.

 

[jem]

what the heck are you talking about.

doubled the tax rates in 1982 under 70 k causing poverty?
how could that be...

the bottom 45% of our country doesn't even pay US income taxes and it been that way for years. Additionally that tax increase got its revenue from chaging the way you write off equipment.

Specifically, it rolled back some but not all of the 1981 tax cut for writing off equipment, and it repealed 1981 "safe harbor" leasing provisions, said Stephen J. Entin, senior fellow at the Tax Foundation and former deputy assistant secretary for economic policy in the Reagan administration.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...n-colbert-brings-ronald-reagans-tax-raising-/

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the real reason the poverty rate is high is because of leftist immigration expansion and inflation state income taxes and sales taxes and every other tax. We have the highest levels of immigrants in our population in the history of the graph I saw... at least 100 years.

We have about 40 million immigrants 50% or more whom receive govt assistance.
We have another 20 million anchor babies.

that is 60 million new people many of whom on the the lower end of the income scale.... holding down the wages of the native born population.

and 60% of Californian's don't even pay state income tax.

Currently US poverty is mostly a leftist creation.
not fricken Ronald Reagans.

this leftist tripe is unbearable.
how could people spend so little time examining the left's montras before spouting it.
Even educated lefties exhibit shit for critical thinking skills.

 

[OddTrader]

QUOTE="OddTrader, post: 4498042, member: 16208"]Income Growth

Over previous 34 yearst (1980 vs 2014)

<-----------------Higher Income ---------- Income PERCENTILE ------------ Lower Income---------------->

Note: Inflation-adjusted annual average growth using post-tax income.

Our Broken Economy, in One Simple Chart

By DAVID LEONHARDT
AUG. 7, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html?ref=opinion



Remarkably, President Trump and the Republican leaders in Congress are trying to go in the other direction. They spent months trying to take away health insurance from millions of middle-class and poor families. Their initial tax-reform plans would reduce taxes for the rich much more than for everyone else. And they want to cut spending on schools, even though education is the single best way to improve middle-class living standards over the long term.

Most Americans would look at these charts and conclude that inequality is out of control. The president, on the other hand, seems to think that inequality isn’t big enough.

 

[piezoe]

Reagan doubled the tax rates in 1982 for anyone making less than $70,000,

can you support this? At some point, was it in tax year 1987?, Reagan's administration, with help from the Congress did raise the rate of the lowest bracket... But doubling the rates in 1982 for anyone making less than 70K ???

There was an 1981 (or '82) bill, and a 1986 Bill, and maybe some others. And I admit I get these confused. What Reagan did for sure, at one point, is wring most of the progressiveness out of the tax brackets. And it has never completely returned. It was the start of accelerated growth in wealth disparity. The data is pretty clear on that.

 

[maxpi]

The Bible refers to queers as "dogs" [pretty funny when I think about that] and says anybody that even condones their lifestyle has no place in heaven... Can't see how Democrats can be Christians but that's their problem, not mine

 

[fan27]

The Bible refers to queers as "dogs" [pretty funny when I think about that] and says anybody that even condones their lifestyle has no place in heaven... Can't see how Democrats can be Christians but that's their problem, not mine

Man, that's harsh

 

[Nine_Ender]

The Bible refers to queers as "dogs" [pretty funny when I think about that] and says anybody that even condones their lifestyle has no place in heaven... Can't see how Democrats can be Christians but that's their problem, not mine

Your problem would be that you remain ignorant about this despite every chance to educate yourself. You might want to check what year the Bible was written.

 

[stu]

The Bible refers to queers as "dogs"

' So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him'
Genesis 1:27

 

[OddTrader]

Christians are supposed to behave like Jesus. Right or wrong?

How many did Jesus kill? !

Or how many did Jesus authorise others to kill? !

I am just wondering.

https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/...lan-to-strike-guam.312035/page-2#post-4498642

Trump Evangelical Adviser: God Is Totally Cool With Nuking North Korea
“God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.”


A right-wing pastor who serves on Donald Trump’s evangelical advisory board claims God has given the president “full power” to launch an attack on North Korea.

Robert Jeffress, head of the First Baptist Dallas megachurch, told CBN on Tuesday that a biblical passage in Romans allows rulers to use “whatever means necessary ― including war ― to stop evil.”

He said:

“In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un. I’m heartened to see that our president ― contrary to what we’ve seen with past administrations who have taken, at best, a sheepish stance toward dictators and oppressors ― will not tolerate any threat against the American people.”