How can I be a better trader?

Quote from emg:

By the time u graduate, u will need to work in a respected trading firm and other peers will be working other firms. Working in the firm is where the GAME begins. That game is not all about trading but gathering more networking. U will need to learn how the business is run. Get to know your neighbor, get to know your supervisor/manager and how they run their duty. Keep in touch with your college peers (Instant message, bars). Expect to work more than 1 firms within 5 years, u will need to firm hop and learn their business model and gather more networking. Learn to play golf and learn to party and drink with your co traders/workers because u are there to learn more about trading by networking. Work in New York or Chicago.


In your twenties, u will be busy busy busy. If all goes well, at the age of 30s, u will be able to open your own Hedge Funds (based on your networking) and at the age of 40s successful, u will be able to own a $800K house (starting) and cars, and beautiful wife and kids.



Keep in mind, when u are in your twenties, that is where u will be working your hardest and the reward will be given at the age of 30s

He can open his hedge fund now with OPM. Read what he wrote; he IS inside. He learned golf, sailing and tennis at summer camp and at prep school. He fucks other preppy chicks.
 
The holy grail is risk management. You can read all about winning traders in the Market Wizards series of books, and the traders all had low risk ideas in common. It's a state of mind. Being afraid of the market is actually a very good thing! It prevents you from deluding yourself into thinking that you can predict what it will do.

I'd recommend learning all you can about risk control and positive expectancy.

Risk control means eliminating the possibility of losing more than a tiny fraction of your account during the worst possible scenario, like if your ISP goes kaput during the trading day, or your computer catches on fire. Risk control is all about the exit strategy. Outstanding trade entries are also very close to the abortion exit (where you know your setup failed).

Expectancy = Average Win * Win rate - Average Loss * loss rate......... Must be a positive number, and it requires you to have a set of rules to trade by, a "system" and some past trade history, some experience.

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I'm a little dumbfounded right now because I don't know what else to do.

Find a profitable trader and study them in real time. You can do that here in the journals section, or if you're lucky and find a subscription service that is profitable you can watch what they do.
 
Quote from shotse:

I'll make this simple and post my information. Please help by posting suggestions, thank you.

- 19 years old
- Studying at Harvard currently taking economics and statistics classes
- Developing trading programs to manage risk and to determine entries into both long or short positions.
- Worked on the sell-side of the market at a brokerage firm for 5 months acting as a stock broker. They taught me how to manage risk, choose trades, create all different kinds of portfolios, and other useful things. I also learned that almost everyone on the sell-side, except a select few are horrible traders and almost always loss money.
- Traded equities and options for 2 years
- Read Market Wizards, Zurich Axioms, Stickly Stock Charts, Jesse Livermore (reminiscences of a stock market operator) and some advanced books on technical indicators
- Created a trader stress training plan where you stay up for 48 hours, study and trade using a small cash account, trading nonstop. (This accounts for a lot of my trading knowledge, forcing yourself to learn.)
- I have one programming expert and one mathematics expert working for me to help in the development of my trading programs.
- I created my own research and development firm, which taught me about taxes and how businesses operate.
- Did a research project in high school on how a combination of technical indicators can aid in entering and exiting a position. Tested using real data and live trading. All information was documented properly for this scientific experiment.

I'm a little dumbfounded right now because I don't know what else to do. I know there will always be more things to learn, but I think I have hit a little bit of a road block right now. I trade successfully and I just want to know how I can become a better trader. I'm doing more and more things, but if anyone can give me a suggestion of what to do that would be very helpful and I would appreciate it greatly. Please help out a college student in need of some more knowledge. Please help quench my thirst, I beg of you. I just finished speaking to my economics professor who used to trade derivatives and he helped a little bit by saying to improve your trading strategy and to create multiple strategies for multiple market conditions because markets are always changing, but I have already done that. This is very stressful for me, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore, I'm in the dark, please someone show me the light, I need more knowledge.

Thank you everyone on Elitetrader for helping me out and I apologize for not posting here all to often.

Sincerely,

Adam

OK, serious answer: Get past the academia for just a while. Get yourself educated in the realities of the trading worlds. "Trading is a simple as you'll let it be, or as difficult as you want to make it." (Don Bright quote, LOL).....

Learn about market mechanics, and the "why" of how things move before wasting years on nonsense. Feel free to send me a PM if you are serious about learning more....

Don
 
Greetings

I know you have read the words of 1a2b3cppp’s repost, but I don’t believe you’ve truly understood the message he was trying to convey. One day in the future, if you survive long enough, when you’ve finally had it, and are about to call it quits from playing these purely mathematical and technical games with yourself, and with the market, you may then come to the realization that; this game called the market is really played inside of your head.

Because at the most foundational level, you’ll realize that the market just transmits ticks! Yes,….that is in essence all that the exchanges do! They just transmit ticks! Its you who must turn those "ticks" into a game that you can win...most of the time. For example, if your perspective is to look at the market at the end of the day, versus where it started in the morning, and price is lower at the close, you’ll then rightly say that "the market" was down. That is “Your Market”! But what about for the guy who was looking at the market from a 1minute chart perspective? His market may have ended moving up from his last bar, swing, or whatever. His market may have a different ending,...yet you're both looking at the same ticks. The same is true for all the other participants in the market, all playing different games.

In truth, its your concept of what those "ticks" mean, relative to how you see “the market,” that determines YOUR MARKET. And since what those ticks mean is inside of your head! There is no market "OUT THERE", except for the one that you create in your head. They are just ticks being transmitted by the exchange! Where they start and where they end is up to you, and the game you’re playing, as reflected by your buying and selling of what you see. Its you who must turn those "ticks" into a game that you can win...most of the time. And now it is at this point in your trading career, that you finally get to the core of the matter.

Its at this time that you may finally learn, what you need to do, how you need to think, and what is truly needed to create a winning game, to successfully play. It is only at this time that the mathematical, technical, and money management tools begin to make sense, and how they need to be properly used, to create a winning game. Surviving this pass of pain, to reach this point of understanding, well….therein lies the true challenge, and the real “market game”. This my friend I believe is the real “Holy Grail” of trading. I only regret that I didn’t learn this 20 years ago.

Enjoy the journey.

KDASFTG
 
Quote from shotse:

I trade successfully...

This is very stressful for me, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore,

Adam,

The reason you don't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore is because once you learn to trade successfully, you're beyond the end of the tunnel and you're standing in the light.

Enjoy it!

:cool:
 
Quote from shotse:

I'll make this simple and post my information. Please help by posting suggestions, thank you.

- 19 years old
- Studying at Harvard

Shouldn't you be chasing debutante class pussy? :)
 
Quote from shotse:

My conclusion was that it worked, but following only a quantitative approach is limiting your potential. After further research I concluded that a hybrid of qualitative and quantitative approaches is superior, but as with quantitative approaches about how you need to define your parameters you need to define your qualitative parameters as well, which in some cases can be difficult, but nonetheless possible.

The 48 hour program doesn't sound healthy and I'm sure for the time being doing that program I wasn't in a good healthy state, but I can conclude that if you create a structured 48 hour program to follow and follow it with discipline working nonstop you will reap extreme benefits and insight. The key word here is discipline and not many individuals have that virtuous trait.

Glad it worked for you.

Sleep science suggests that a 48 hour bender will reduce your efficiency and the level at which you retain information as you go more and more into a deprived state. Working memory fails as sleep deprivation continues.

Although I will admit I sometimes get "creative" as I approach the early stages of sleep deprivation, the effects are short-lived at best and certainly nowhere near 24 hours, much less 48.
 
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