Quote from Maverick74:
And furthermore, our biggest problem in education is not religion, it's the fact that 20% of high school kids can't even read and write at their level. I think that trumps religion. Come on Vhehn, look around you. Not in South Dakota, but come down to Chicago and walk the streets a little bit. These kids can't even name their own state capital, who the VP of the US is or locating Germany on a world map. Religion is the least of our worries.
Quote from Maverick74:
And furthermore, our biggest problem in education is not religion, it's the fact that 20% of high school kids can't even read and write at their level. I think that trumps religion. Come on Vhehn, look around you. Not in South Dakota, but come down to Chicago and walk the streets a little bit. These kids can't even name their own state capital, who the VP of the US is or locating Germany on a world map. Religion is the least of our worries.
Quote from Free Thinker:
really? i spent some time last winter in fort meyers florida. drove through some black areas touring. one thing i noticed. one crappy run down school but a churches everywhere. it has an effect.
now we find ourselves in the tech era. we need scientists. how can we educate a child in science if he is taught by his church that the bedrock of biology, evolution, is false?
Quote from Maverick74:
You dodged my point. What is it with you. Do you really, honestly think religion is the biggest of our concerns? Dude, go take a look at some of these poor black schools. Some of them have drop out rates pushing 90% Yes 90%!!!! Some of these kids leave high school completely illiterate! You are proving once again how completely dishonest you are. How the flying f*ck can we have scientists when most of our kids struggle to read and write and do basic math, yes basic math!
Quote from Maverick74:
You dodged my point. What is it with you. Do you really, honestly think religion is the biggest of our concerns? Dude, go take a look at some of these poor black schools. Some of them have drop out rates pushing 90% Yes 90%!!!! Some of these kids leave high school completely illiterate! You are proving once again how completely dishonest you are. How the flying f*ck can we have scientists when most of our kids struggle to read and write and do basic math, yes basic math!
you are the one who sprouted off and turned this into a conservative vs liberal education pissing match.Quote from Max E. Pad:
Well said.... this was exactly the point i was trying to make originally. We dont have a problem with too much "religion" in school. We have a problem with too many students not being able to read/write, and Vhehn is too goddamn blind to admit it, he somehow thinks religion is the problem.
I say this as a person who is not religious.
Quote from Free Thinker:
this op was about evangelicals most of whom are are well of whites in good schools. if we turn them off to science because of religious teaching the poor blacks in bad schools sure will not take up the slack.
Quote from Free Thinker:
you are the one who sprouted off and turned this into a conservative vs liberal education pissing match.