How are you traders competing with (and beating) the algos, HFTs, etc.?

As opposed to "newb handles" that are the same person posting 2500 times to drum up ad revenue for this garbage site? I surmise 80% of the content on this site is internal errr inbred musings.

ballstaranonymous,

Calm down man, we all here to trade and make the money and get the knowledge.
 
Todays epic hard on one way bullshit was classic botfukkery

even your newly minted turd SPOT caught the fever eod, long after I had covered
 
Slartibartfast,

Leave SaltyNuts alone man.

He ask decent questions in a kind manner and respectful way. Some of us, including myself, do not have as much as experience as you more experienced traders. I sure don't.

Let the guy ask whatever he wants to.

If he is an adult he can fend for himself.

You need to get over yourself and you are not protecting him.

Re-reading my post, I missed the mark a bit making it as humorous as I intended. I have a flu.

People who don't appreciate the same questions have been asked a thousand times after a while posting and researching themselves first are screwed. A bad habit becomes a worse habit. It is perfectly fair to say hey, I had this question, did research and came to this conclusion showing research. Groundhog day is not a way to go. This is my experience from forums and interviewing scores of assistants & training a few.

Someone who does the work in the first instance (after a little time noobing) has a chance as they know how to learn.

Needs to get hands dirty.

Otherwise what is the point?
 
DeltaRisk,

Please give an example of a heavily traded instrument? Would this be the /ES for example?

I would say ES & Forex(basically any index futures.) It’s incredibly hard to arb even with cross margining, the market is just too crowded with IB’s.

Stocks provide an edge, but not as a stand-alone product. Options do also, but again not as a stand-alone product.

Ask yourself this.....
“What is the connection between the products?”

If you can answer that, you will become a professional.
 
I would say ES & Forex(basically any index futures.) It’s incredibly hard to arb even with cross margining, the market is just too crowded with IB’s.

Stocks provide an edge, but not as a stand-alone product. Options do also, but again not as a stand-alone product.

Ask yourself this.....
“What is the connection between the products?”

If you can answer that, you will become a professional.

Are you suggesting to trade the lead lag relationships between different markets. Sorry but computers already do it much better and faster than any human ever could.

Option fair prices are calculated by computers too. Delta hedging can be automated as well
 
I do several arbitrage and lag trades. That computers do these does not mean I can't do it profitable discretionary without that investment in programming.

Back in 2014 when I started so many people told me it was hopeless because of computers and AI. I must have been told about 'Flashboys' ten times by older and wisers. I jumped in and turned out, trading was not all that hard and I'm doing fine.

A human can't operate in microseconds but in the larger timeframes we can do very well. Just forget what those who have not done, but know better say and study/practice a couple of trades on sim until you have them down. Where you start, Futures, Options etc., the trade, the charts etc. will just be a stab in the dark, but you will evolve.
 
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Are you suggesting to trade the lead lag relationships between different markets. Sorry but computers already do it much better and faster than any human ever could.

Option fair prices are calculated by computers too. Delta hedging can be automated as well

No, I don’t trade lead-lag whatsoever.
Go take time out and read, if you’re too lazy then you don’t deserve to trade.
You have to know everything before you can ever see what’s not there.
It is there, you don’t have to worry about HFT’s or banks. Again, fundamental analysis and T/A is useless in publicly traded companies.

But, again..... what do I know?
 
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