How American Oligarchs Are Pushing America to the Brink of Fascism

WeToddDid2 · Feb 8, 2015

Ricter said:
The functional equivalent can be (indeed has been) achieved where the working class gets more of the fruit of its labor via successful wage demands, and progressive taxation.

That is not the same thing. Again, it is a fairytale. Are there oligarchs in these functional equivalents that you speak of?

Please name these functional equivalents.

dbphoenix · Feb 8, 2015

WeToddDid2 said:
That is not the same thing. Again, it is a fairytale. Are there oligarchs in these functional equivalents that you speak of?

Please name these functional equivalents.

Remember you're dealing with youngsters here, Ricter.

WeToddDid2 · Feb 8, 2015

dbphoenix said:
Remember you're dealing with youngsters here, Ricter.

Why can't you name one?

I will ask you the same question I have asked others previously.

Can you provide me a historical example in which any form of government with a sizable population did not end up as an oligarchy or dictatorship? The polar opposite of capitalism is communism. All communist countries have been oligarchies or dictatorships. For example, USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. Do you prefer a dictatorship to an oligarchy?

loyek590 · Feb 8, 2015

WeToddDid2 said:
Why can't you name one?

I will ask you the same question I have asked other previously.

Can you provide me a historical example in which any form of government with a sizable population did not end up as an oligarchy or dictatorship? The polar opposite of capitalism is communism. All communist countries have been oligarchies or dictatorships. For example, USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. Do you prefer a dictatorship to an oligarchy?

now that deserves a snarky reply

WeToddDid2 · Feb 8, 2015

I also find another libtard myth very interesting. For some illogical libtard reason, I have read a lot of libtards that have this false belief that if there was just true democracy everything would be just as they want it to be. Why in the hell do libtards believe that if there was true democracy that all majority votes would vote they way they want?

loyek590 · Feb 8, 2015

WeToddDid2 said:
I also find another libtard myth very interesting. For some illogical libtard reason, I have read a lot of libtards that have this false belief that if there was just true democracy everything would be just as they want it to be. Why in the hell do libtards believe that if there was true democracy that all majority votes would vote they way they want?

that's nothing short of brilliant

dbphoenix · Feb 8, 2015

WeToddDid2 said:
Why can't you name one?

I will ask you the same question I have asked others previously.

Can you provide me a historical example in which any form of government with a sizable population did not end up as an oligarchy or dictatorship? The polar opposite of capitalism is communism. All communist countries have been oligarchies or dictatorships. For example, USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. Do you prefer a dictatorship to an oligarchy?

That wasn't the question. You asked, "Are there oligarchs in these functional equivalents that you speak of?" I assume he'll bring up the 50s. But maybe not.

jem · Feb 8, 2015

other than coins (which I have not researched) I believe that all of the money is created by private banks or at the direction of the privately owned Federal Reserve.

Even our cash is actually a Federal Reserve Note, if you read it, printed by the treasury pursuant to orders of the Federal Reserve.

Per the federal reserve website The federal reserve has shareholders (private banks) ... and we have no idea who those shareholders are.

WeToddDid2 said:
The .gov farmed out the vast majority of money creation to the banks. The current monetary system in the United States is designed for the banks to create the majority of the money.

dbphoenix · Feb 8, 2015

WeToddDid2 said:
I also find another libtard myth very interesting. For some illogical libtard reason, I have read a lot of libtards that have this false belief that if there was just true democracy everything would be just as they want it to be. Why in the hell do libtards believe that if there was true democracy that all majority votes would vote they way they want?

Because people are a lot smarter than the right wing thinks they are. Brownback will likely be finding that out eventually.

loyek590 · Feb 8, 2015

dbphoenix said:
Because people are a lot smarter than the right wing thinks they are. Brownback will likely be finding that out eventually.

we the people are a lot more smarter than you think we are