How a self made top 5% trader views the world (ME)

[andrasnm]

when you each finish blowing each other off, smoke a cigarette and gargle too.....
FYI, my young and stupid poster - anger is not the Source.....
I would tell you what the source is but I am afraid you would not get it. Just a note, the most successful traders
1) not money oriented
2) not on ET to brag
3) way passed the age of 23

 

[plungerx]

I disagree about giving away strategy part.... most traders will never figure out how to use a strategy properly even though it is given away for free. Discretionary trading strategies do not hold concrete rules therefore, giving it away does not mean the trader replicating will profit from it

 

[chloride]

Quote from teck:

Yes Chloride Im good with pretty much everything stated I feel that way -and in my mind im thinking all this stuff all though my work day .Im always seeking the way out from max security but ive also slumped into a comfort zone making it even harder to be
ambitious enough to take to massive actions or chances to step up and out to the next level. Thinking back though it was always anger and being totally exasperated with my job and prediciment that got me as far as i am. Im 50 now though not as ambitious as 20 or 30....still though i want a much bigger income more freedom and power .Im currently reading a book were the author states if you want a great income and life you have to give up the good one you have- but most wont give up their shit income or life .....why because they settle for less their not angry or fed up enough to get off their asses... anyway ,just some thoughts ...thnx

I am glad this inspires you, or at the very least serves to further enlighten you.

 

[chloride]

Quote from andrasnm:

when you each finish blowing each other off, smoke a cigarette and gargle too.....
FYI, my young and stupid poster - anger is not the Source.....
I would tell you what the source is but I am afraid you would not get it. Just a note, the most successful traders
1) not money oriented
2) not on ET to brag
3) way passed the age of 23

Listen here you older SEMI-intelligent man

if you are like me, of course you won't learn shit from my thread

but i guarantee you there are people here reading my post and using it as a mental stepping stone.

DID IT EVER occur to you, that some of us feel the need to express our feelings related to trading and how we got started

you must be some kind of a machine

OR you are so old that you don't remember your beginning.

maybe you are from a wealthy family in which case YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I SPEAK OF

 

[pairsarbtooo]

Quote from andrasnm:

when you each finish blowing each other off, smoke a cigarette and gargle too.....
FYI, my young and stupid poster - anger is not the Source.....
I would tell you what the source is but I am afraid you would not get it. Just a note, the most successful traders
1) not money oriented
2) not on ET to brag
3) way passed the age of 23

But the rest of us might get it. So what is the source? Let us discover if we understand it.

 

[dtrader98]

Quote from chloride:

aaaaaa..........aaaaaa..........that wasn't a poem

Ill revise it to say....
nice tome

Although remember, as a wise philosopher named yoda once uttered....

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering"

Think a bit beyond spock. Perhaps data who is more evolved might think, but captain, if one were to make the maximum amount of money the way my internal AI algorithms are suggesting, wouldn't that be unethical to other humans?

To which riker might interject, "...and possibly land you in the brig for several United Federation violations. Nobody said climbing to the top was easy data, you've still got some work to do on your positron emiters, I see. That's why you're in engineering, so stick to fixing the warp core and let the captain and I make the big decisions."

Which is why old school spock just might out trade data on any given year. But, I'd invest my money in Kirk or riker's hedge fund over spock and data's any day. Because no matter how good your analytical skills are, at the end or the day, when it comes to trading, like politics, sometimes it's who you know that gives you the edge, not what you know.

 

[athlonmank8]

Although I understand what you have to say..... I think you're a total nutjob. Go back to your box.

You're single-dimensional.

Although you may be a good trader, I bet your social life and relationships with individuals are pathetic at best.

You're time would probably be better spent in a closet with a computer and a wireless connection.


I also noticed you called religion a lie. Im sure you also "found that out" by your "knowledge of life". But unfortunately I have to say that several top traders do not share this view. This is another problem I have with you to be perfectly honest.

LASTLY, to say that your little rant about how a good trader should think is just plain dumb. You dont have to be 'better than the world' to trade. That whole "philosophy and Aristotle" bullshit is a little too old now. We're in the 20th century.....catch up.

 

[chloride]

Quote from athlonmank8:

Although I understand what you have to say..... I think you're a total nutjob. Go back to your box.

You're single-dimensional.

I also noticed you called religion a lie. Im sure you also "found that out" by your "knowledge of life". But unfortunately I have to say that several top traders do not share this view.

In one post you just revealed everything about yourself

I would not want to spend 1 minute with a trapped man like yourself.

let me guess your life is guided by what would baby jesus do.

you are not half the thinker I am

 

[PARACLESE]

Quote from chloride:

I thought all you new people would appreciate to read how exactly does a top trader think about trading and everything else.

Come with me on this journey.

First of all, I am not too social, slightly introverted which explains why I am on ET.

Don't get me wrong, I "party" go to clubs sometimes, have 5 good friends etc. But I am most comfortable alone.

Now lets get to the money.

I do not believe that I am better than you. But I DO believe that I am different from you.

How so ????

well .........try to bear with me

I am a cynical son of a bitch

I am critical of myself and others

I am well read in many many topics.

I do not believe I made a choice to be this way, I think most of us have no choice in how we think.

I see life as a struggle, I see our collective lives as a fucking prison.

Trading or starting own business is a way to ESCAPE from Maximum Security prison to minimum security.

I see EVIL but I am also willing to admit that I am part of this EVIL.

making it in world of trading requires source of POWER

find your source of power in your anger, anger in how this world works,

if you are not angry, you are not well informed.

find your anger, find your power, use your power to sustain you in this tough field.

and remember, when trading ask your self

What would Spock from original Star Trek say here if he was trying to find a good trading method.

and don't listen to people who are giving you their strategy

its worthless 99% of times

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welcome! very welcome indeed. Just came to this thread, but, good to know an honest person. Always. I just may share my honest opinions on this board. You must not let heavy info get you angry. Anger can and will be your worst enemy. Get even. i.e. soros! Test your skills to make a man like yourself closer to world domination(take control of the prison). Good luck in your endeavors.

 

[PARACLESE]

Quote from QuantPlus:

Most of your OP is OK...
But here you are DEAD WRONG.

It's like saying "only persistence" is required to be:

(1) A world class musician.

(2) An NBA basketball player.

(3) A feature film director.

Nothing could be further from the truth.
Talent is 90% of the ballgame... as it is in trading.

talent comes from love. A lover of life for instance will be excellent at many things. You would be amazed at what an overly optimistic person can accomplish. Why? because to him, anything is possible. I myself cannot be classified. YOu can try to pin me to anything you feel might be what I am best at, but if you know me, these things are just normal occurences. You may say it is genetics, however no one in my family can, or has done the same. I am different and proud of it. I never wanted to be like everyone else, or mediocre. but thats just me. Its a free world "do what thou wilt".