housing not bubbling

i can count no less than 10 "house for sale" signs on the way to my postoffice (probably less than a mile away). on top of that on the way there i see 2 mercedes benz S500, 1 lexus LS430, and 1 H2. all in less than 1 mile. about 10 miles away there is a billboard ad for a bently. on the way to the gym (about 2 miles away) i can count a dozen...

how many "for sale" signs do you see?
 
I think inventory is up all over. In Vegas its doubled since 2004, "conversions" (i.e apartments converted to condo) are up 50% over last year. IN Phoenix its similar.

There were 3 things that contributed to run up in RE prices:

1. Low inventory

2. Record low interest rates

3. Strong demand due to household formation and rise in household wealth.

Take away any 2 and I think you see a much cooler market.

Another interesting trend is the ridiculously high prices people are paying for things like art, classic cars etc...I distinctly remember the last time that happened, we had a recession.
 
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i can count no less than 10 "house for sale" signs on the way to my postoffice (probably less than a mile away). on top of that on the way there i see 2 mercedes benz S500, 1 lexus LS430, and 1 H2. all in less than 1 mile. about 10 miles away there is a billboard ad for a bently. on the way to the gym (about 2 miles away) i can count a dozen...

how many "for sale" signs do you see?

I hope you are being sarcastic about there being no housing bubble. How does a 924sqft 2 bedroom built in 1924 with $80,000 in termite damage for $680,000 sound? Thats for sale on my street.

-segv
 
funny you must live by me - bentleys, benz 500's , vipers, bmw's 750's, hummers's, jags are as common as Hondas - never seen so many rich people in my entire life...

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i can count no less than 10 "house for sale" signs on the way to my postoffice (probably less than a mile away). on top of that on the way there i see 2 mercedes benz S500, 1 lexus LS430, and 1 H2. all in less than 1 mile. about 10 miles away there is a billboard ad for a bently. on the way to the gym (about 2 miles away) i can count a dozen...

how many "for sale" signs do you see?
 
interesting entry on Mish's blog - excerpt:

Mike Morgan at MorganFlorida had this to say.

I have 43 clients walking away from deposits that range from $35,000 to $80,000. That’s 43 out of 43, and we were very careful to buy the very lowest price per square foot and the best amenities. None of these buyers are in condos or even in areas where there are condos. You’re not seeing the real story in the press. Agents don’t want to talk about it.

In one local project built by Lennar there are 184 units. About 120 of them are pre-sold with deliveries starting this summer. They have been unable to sell the remaining 64 units, even though they have lowered prices by 10-20%. They are spending a great deal more on marketing and advertising, as well as double commissions. Lower prices and higher selling costs, not to mention increasing cost of raw materials.

Of the 120 units that have been sold, at least 110 are speculators. Within a couple of miles there are other projects under construction or recently built with more than 400 similar units on the market . . . all speculators that can’t sell. For our market, that represents at least a three year supply.


A final thought on condo sales. Look for mind boggling cancellation numbers 6-18 months down the road. These projects take longer to build, so there is no reason for a speculator to walk away from a contract. They will wait until the builder demands a closing. Word on the street in our markets is scary. It appears more than half of the condo projects under development will either be cancelled, and half of those that do make it to completion will see vacancy rates of more than 50%.

...

Do the math. In Miami alone there are 70,000 condos under development with a 2,500 a year absorbtion rate. Sounds ugly? Well we can’t even get hard numbers for Florida’s Gulf Coast, but that market is in far worse shape than Miami. Most of the WCI projects are on the West Coast of Florida, and these are unrealistic seven figure condos. This end of the market has not slowed . . . it has stopped, and is now going in reverse with more cancellations than orders.

Another problem is facing home builders. The labor shortage has been compounded by inexperienced labor, illegal immigrants with absolutely no experience, and contractors cutting corners. Of the 43 clients I have that are going to walk from deposits, I will most likely be able to get all of their deposits back due to code violations in the construction. I have a 10 for 10 batting average so far. The builders only have to hear my name, and they ask . . . what do you want in exchange for signing a confidentially agreement.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2006/05/abandon-ship.html
 
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interesting entry on Mish's blog - excerpt:



http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2006/05/abandon-ship.html

wow. i was watching 20/20 and they were saying the same thing... the guy they were interviewing (i think he was a vertern r/e flipper) "knew" the bubble was over when he held an auction and nobody, not a single person, came.

it's spooky.. i am seeing these for sale signs ALL over the place as if all of a sudden everyone is heading for the exit.
 
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wow. i was watching 20/20 and they were saying the same thing... the guy they were interviewing (i think he was a vertern r/e flipper) "knew" the bubble was over when he held an auction and nobody, not a single person, came.

it's spooky.. i am seeing these for sale signs ALL over the place as if all of a sudden everyone is heading for the exit.

Anecdotal evidence, but a support staff person who needed to put her house on the market (in a supposedly 'hot' area) due to decrease in earnings (from health issues, etc...) was unable to sell at any price and is currently being foreclosed upon. Checked foreclosures.com for my zip code and many homes either in foreclosure or preforeclosure.

However, you'd never know this from the movement of subprime lenders in the market lately (up).
 
within 2 blocks of my residence:

Encino, California



Qty

6 - 3million+ homes for sale

8- 850,000 - 1.3 mil homes for sale

2- homes with REO (real estate owned signs) bank foreclosed



And...................................................


Nothing is selling.


Dave
 
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within 2 blocks of my residence:

Encino, California



Qty

6 - 3million+ homes for sale

8- 850,000 - 1.3 mil homes for sale

2- homes with REO (real estate owned signs) bank foreclosed



And...................................................


Nothing is selling.


Dave

Having grown up in the area (Rancho St) I find it a "bit" of a surprise that the bite is on this fast. It's a desirable area -- although $3M is a big push for most of those places. What part are you in?
 
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