Houses cheaper than cars in depressed Detroit

I have a place on torch lake =)

Quote from ByLoSellHi:

I know all the builders and developers in Macomb County.

It's not any more chummy than Oakland county. There are groups of people that stick together in each major county.

As far as drugs, quality of life, etc., I've been all over the country, and from a quality of life standard, there are few place that offer a better balance of beauty, clean air, low congestion, shopping and other amenities than your Rochester Hills, Washington Township, Brighton or Franklin.

Even with all the problems Michigan is having.

People automatically think Detroit and negative things when they hear Michigan. Michigan has some amazingly great places to live and raise a family.

And then, of course, you have the beautiful inland lakes up north, as well as the Great Lakes.

Take someone from out of state to the Sleeping Bear Sand Dunes overlooking Lake Michigan and they will be mystified.

Some of the inland lakes in Michigan have some of the cleanest freshwater in the world, and you can see 50 feet into the water (Crystal Lake and Torch Lake are like that, so is Houghton).

If you blindfolded someone, brought them to Michigan, took their blindfold off, and drove them around Leelanau, they would be awed by the rolling ground, lushness, and amazingly pristine conditions.

Michigan hasn't sold itself to its potential.
 
I have been following this thread and here are some thoughts.

I have to think that some entrepreneur, like a Magic Johnson, or so could come in and make something out of this urban blight. I am serious, he did it in South Central lA, I believe, he built movie theaters, catered to the black crowd and did well. I realize LA has a much better economy that Detroit, but there are ways to improve, ppl. just need to get a creative.

If the local government is really corrupt, then that's going to be really tough. Look at New Orleans for a good example of cronism and dysfunctional government and it's effects.

On another note, the US needs to think about tax incentives for buying American, call it Protectionism, whatever you want, China and Japan do so why shouldn't we?
 
Quote from jtnet:

I have a place on torch lake =)

That is an amazing lake. I have been to inland lakes all over, fishing and boating, and Torch Lake is among the top 3 I've ever seen.

People from outside of Michigan would think they were on a Great Lake if they went out on that lake. I think it's close to 18 miles long.

*Edit - Damn, I'm good. 18 miles indeed.


Torch Lake, at 18 miles long , is Michigan's longest lake. Torch Lake also is Michigan's second largest lake covering over 29 square miles. Torch Lake, with an average depth of over 200 feet, is a fine habitat for trout. Downrigger fishing is the best way to go after the trout that stay in the cold depths most of the time.

AREA :18,770 acres
LENGTH : 18 mi.
WIDTH : max. 2.35 miles.
DEPTH : max 315 ft. ave 111 ft.
THERMOCLINE : starts at 25'
BOTTOM :
Shoal - sand, gravel, rubble,marl.
Deep - clay, marl, pulpy peat

Latitude: N44° 58.57'
Longitude: W85° 18.32'

Species: Lake trout, rock bass, yellow perch, small mouth bass, muskellunge, ciscoes, brown trout, rainbow trout, whitefish.

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Michigans largest inland lake by water volume im pretty sure.

3rd most beautiful lake in world according to national geographic.

michigans "little" secret


Quote from ByLoSellHi:

That is an amazing lake. I have been to inland lakes all over, fishing and boating, and Torch Lake is among the top 3 I've ever seen.

People from outside of Michigan would think they were on a Great Lake if they went out on that lake. I think it's close to 18 miles long.

*Edit - Damn, I'm good. 18 miles indeed.


Torch Lake, at 18 miles long , is Michigan's longest lake. Torch Lake also is Michigan's second largest lake covering over 29 square miles. Torch Lake, with an average depth of over 200 feet, is a fine habitat for trout. Downrigger fishing is the best way to go after the trout that stay in the cold depths most of the time.

AREA :18,770 acres
LENGTH : 18 mi.
WIDTH : max. 2.35 miles.
DEPTH : max 315 ft. ave 111 ft.
THERMOCLINE : starts at 25'
BOTTOM :
Shoal - sand, gravel, rubble,marl.
Deep - clay, marl, pulpy peat

Latitude: N44° 58.57'
Longitude: W85° 18.32'

Species: Lake trout, rock bass, yellow perch, small mouth bass, muskellunge, ciscoes, brown trout, rainbow trout, whitefish.

map.gif
 
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