House passes healthcare overhaul, a major victory for Obama
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The plan of the mutants will be to continue to eat pork rinds, Wonder Bread, fatty foods, drink too much, smoke cigars and eat and drink anything else carcinogenic, fatty, and sure to generate health problems...so that they can bankrupt the entire system...
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The current worldwide trend is not your friend...
If you were a man of your convictions, wouldn't now be the time to short Obamacare at intrade.com?
The current worldwide trend is not your friend...
If you were a man of your convictions, wouldn't now be the time to short Obamacare at intrade.com?
Quote from Arnie:
I can't wait to hear the screaming once the House Dems see that the Senate is going to reneg on the reconciliation bill, ya know the one with all the "fixins".
this is basically the deathblow for the american conservative movement as we know it.
Obama and the democratic congress might or might not lose their seats in the short term, but in time to come as future generations get used to these entitlements, no party will dare to repeal these laws.
What you are witnessing in America in a shift of the entire political structure, just like it was in the UK after it implemented a Universal healthcare system, which is where this country is headed. Just look at the recent run up to the UK elections, the conservative party leader David cameron talked abt cutting some random small benefits in the british press, not even on healthcare, and his poll numbers are dropping like a rock after having been given a sizeable lead. I once asked if a brit living in the US if the UK conservative party was the same as the republicans here. He laughed and said, the Uk conservatives is closer to the democratic party in idelogy and the labour party simply has no equivalent over here. yes indeed conservatism will take on a whole new meaning for future generations of americans.
the democrats knew what they were doing, capitalizing on the unpopularity of bush and the messianic status of obama, it was their golden opportunity to hand the republicans their waterloo moment for now and forever....and future generations having been raised on a diet of benefits and entitlements will herald Obama as the second founder of america, after all history is written by the victors.
Obama and the democratic congress might or might not lose their seats in the short term, but in time to come as future generations get used to these entitlements, no party will dare to repeal these laws.
What you are witnessing in America in a shift of the entire political structure, just like it was in the UK after it implemented a Universal healthcare system, which is where this country is headed. Just look at the recent run up to the UK elections, the conservative party leader David cameron talked abt cutting some random small benefits in the british press, not even on healthcare, and his poll numbers are dropping like a rock after having been given a sizeable lead. I once asked if a brit living in the US if the UK conservative party was the same as the republicans here. He laughed and said, the Uk conservatives is closer to the democratic party in idelogy and the labour party simply has no equivalent over here. yes indeed conservatism will take on a whole new meaning for future generations of americans.
the democrats knew what they were doing, capitalizing on the unpopularity of bush and the messianic status of obama, it was their golden opportunity to hand the republicans their waterloo moment for now and forever....and future generations having been raised on a diet of benefits and entitlements will herald Obama as the second founder of america, after all history is written by the victors.
The American people (can't speak for the Brits or the French) are reacting to what Bush's policy did for the average citizen...
Trickle down is a lie.
Tax cuts for the wealthy did not create jobs...the money corporations saved in not paying their fair share of taxes went to funding business in China and elsewhere, in the process diminishing our own economy.
Some of the ideas of the right would be okay, if and only if the money were used to assist America and all Americans, not just the wealthy and privileged.
History has shown us over and over again what happens when wealth is concentrated in the hands of those who are making political policy...and even more egregious in America is when the right wing power elite gives lip service to patriotism and then supports the plundering of our society through exporting jobs, gouging by big oil, big pharma, and the big insurance conglomerates, etc.
Americans want a piece of the pie, they don't want the pie priced out of their reach, and jobs given to other countries, while corporations make a killing in the process and then try to avoid taxation...
If the right wing tea-baggers would take on the corruption of American corporations, put all Americans first...they would have a chance, but retread Reagan-ism is/was a lie and people are starting to see through the Ponzi scheme it is/was...
The right doesn't really care about all Americans, and that is the problem going forward...
The right can't hide the damage Bush did to this country. You can't hide the facts of which administrations have been at the helm when we have had our biggest stock market crashes and displacement of capital. You can't hide the disparity between the shrinking middle class and the tax cut wealthy class who do nothing to help or empower the middle...
Trickle down is a lie.
Tax cuts for the wealthy did not create jobs...the money corporations saved in not paying their fair share of taxes went to funding business in China and elsewhere, in the process diminishing our own economy.
Some of the ideas of the right would be okay, if and only if the money were used to assist America and all Americans, not just the wealthy and privileged.
History has shown us over and over again what happens when wealth is concentrated in the hands of those who are making political policy...and even more egregious in America is when the right wing power elite gives lip service to patriotism and then supports the plundering of our society through exporting jobs, gouging by big oil, big pharma, and the big insurance conglomerates, etc.
Americans want a piece of the pie, they don't want the pie priced out of their reach, and jobs given to other countries, while corporations make a killing in the process and then try to avoid taxation...
If the right wing tea-baggers would take on the corruption of American corporations, put all Americans first...they would have a chance, but retread Reagan-ism is/was a lie and people are starting to see through the Ponzi scheme it is/was...
The right doesn't really care about all Americans, and that is the problem going forward...
The right can't hide the damage Bush did to this country. You can't hide the facts of which administrations have been at the helm when we have had our biggest stock market crashes and displacement of capital. You can't hide the disparity between the shrinking middle class and the tax cut wealthy class who do nothing to help or empower the middle...
Oh, there is a lot to short for those who are sure of an impending political correction...
Quote from Arnie:
The Senate bill is what passed and everyone agrees its a bad bill. So as soon as Obama signs the bill, it the law. The reconciliation bill is supposed to "fix" it, but I don't think that will happen in the Senate. This is a done deal. What's there to short?