Horse Slaughter
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Virtuoso, well, that question really depends on how you define "natural".
Biologically we can on the whole get away with eating animals, albeit at the expense of diminished health.
Morally, as enlightened human beings who no longer live in a subsistence situation or in the stone ages for that matter, I think it's totally repugnant to mass breed animals in factories with the sole purpose of eventually brutally killing them - animals of which many like pigs are far more intelligent than dogs but with the same feelings, inherent playfulness and ability to feel pain and fear etc - breeding them in contemptible, confined surroundings totally at odds with their natural life style, condemning them to a miserable life of permanent fear, total misery and pain, which is ended in an even more painful and barbaric way, just so we can then eat them.
And as I mentioned earlier, after you get your head around the decision itself, life afterwards will be far superior in many ways, and you really will not miss anything.
That is really true, it's just in your head.
Biologically we can on the whole get away with eating animals, albeit at the expense of diminished health.
Morally, as enlightened human beings who no longer live in a subsistence situation or in the stone ages for that matter, I think it's totally repugnant to mass breed animals in factories with the sole purpose of eventually brutally killing them - animals of which many like pigs are far more intelligent than dogs but with the same feelings, inherent playfulness and ability to feel pain and fear etc - breeding them in contemptible, confined surroundings totally at odds with their natural life style, condemning them to a miserable life of permanent fear, total misery and pain, which is ended in an even more painful and barbaric way, just so we can then eat them.
And as I mentioned earlier, after you get your head around the decision itself, life afterwards will be far superior in many ways, and you really will not miss anything.
That is really true, it's just in your head.
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Virtuoso, well, that question really depends on how you define "natural".
Biologically we can on the whole get away with eating animals, albeit at the expense of diminished health.
Morally, as enlightened human beings who no longer live in a subsistence situation or in the stone ages for that matter, I think it's totally repugnant to mass breed animals in factories with the sole purpose of eventually brutally killing them - animals of which many like pigs are far more intelligent than dogs and with the same feelings, inherent playfulness and ability to feel pain and fear etc - breeding them in contemptible, confined surroundings totally at odds with their natural life style, condemning them to a miserable life of total fear, misery and pain, which is ended in an even more painful and barbaric way, just so we can then eat them.
And as I mentioned earlier, after you get your head around the decision itself, life afterwards will be far superior in many ways, and you really will not miss anything.
That is really true, it's just in your head.
I tell ya what; the day PETA can go convince a baracuda that it is unnatural to feast on smaller fish and his health would be greatly improved by dieting on seaweed instead, then that is the day I will give up meat and fish. Until then, I will continue to follow the natural laws of the universe.
Also, what makes you feel that it is so much more humane to feast on say a mushroom? Is that not another living habitant of the universe?
Well, I don't think it's about barracudas and seaweed, exactly, particularly as I haven't seen any underwater prison and slaughter camps to date yet, imo it's about humans who have a free choice.
Just give the whole thing some thought some time - I don't want to preach here - but for me it was others too who eventually raised my awareness of these issues, and it then still took me some time until I made the decision to forego animals for food.
Although I haven't given up on fish yet, I admit.
Just give the whole thing some thought some time - I don't want to preach here - but for me it was others too who eventually raised my awareness of these issues, and it then still took me some time until I made the decision to forego animals for food.
Although I haven't given up on fish yet, I admit.
First, of course animals know fear
Do a google if you doubt that.
Second, lol, my personal journey is what's called a process in the making, I'm not a finished work of art.
Besides, like I said, just give it some thought and no need to go overboard.
Also, if holocaust survivors themselves equate what's happening in the animal industry with their personal holocaust, I really think you should show some respect and not criticize them.
âWhen I see cages crammed with chickens from battery farms thrown on trucks like bundles of trash, I see, with the eyes of my soul, the Umschlagplatz [the spot in the Warsaw Ghetto where Jews were forced onto trains leaving for the death camps]. When I go to a restaurant and see people devouring meat, I feel sick. I see a holocaust on their plates.â
â Georges Metanomski, Holocaust survivor who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising
"Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals."
--Theodor Adorno
Our grandchildren will ask us one day: Where were you during the Holocaust of the animals? What did you do against these horrifying crimes? We won't be able to offer the same excuse for the second time, that we didn't know.
--Dr. Helmut Kaplan"
http://www.masskilling.com/
http://www.powerfulbook.com/quotes.html
Do a google if you doubt that.
Second, lol, my personal journey is what's called a process in the making, I'm not a finished work of art.
Besides, like I said, just give it some thought and no need to go overboard.
Also, if holocaust survivors themselves equate what's happening in the animal industry with their personal holocaust, I really think you should show some respect and not criticize them.
âWhen I see cages crammed with chickens from battery farms thrown on trucks like bundles of trash, I see, with the eyes of my soul, the Umschlagplatz [the spot in the Warsaw Ghetto where Jews were forced onto trains leaving for the death camps]. When I go to a restaurant and see people devouring meat, I feel sick. I see a holocaust on their plates.â
â Georges Metanomski, Holocaust survivor who fought in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising
"Auschwitz begins wherever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they're only animals."
--Theodor Adorno
Our grandchildren will ask us one day: Where were you during the Holocaust of the animals? What did you do against these horrifying crimes? We won't be able to offer the same excuse for the second time, that we didn't know.
--Dr. Helmut Kaplan"
http://www.masskilling.com/
http://www.powerfulbook.com/quotes.html
i can assure you from personal experience that PIGS fear.....I have been to many slaughter houses for my annual PIG ROAST ( dem cubans love their pork )....
the way it works is you point out the pig you want and the gentleman sends the pig on his way to the chamber....ill tell you this much the employee has to fight the pig tooth and nail to get him to go up the ramp; and i belive the reason is because the pig knows once it goes up that ramp it never comes back....so i have to assume they know whats up and they fear just like us....
note...from my last experience at a more outdated slaughter house ( more like a ranch )..I will never ever ever ever hold another annual pig roast in me life.....peace
the way it works is you point out the pig you want and the gentleman sends the pig on his way to the chamber....ill tell you this much the employee has to fight the pig tooth and nail to get him to go up the ramp; and i belive the reason is because the pig knows once it goes up that ramp it never comes back....so i have to assume they know whats up and they fear just like us....
note...from my last experience at a more outdated slaughter house ( more like a ranch )..I will never ever ever ever hold another annual pig roast in me life.....peace
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Loading a pig up a ramp is a harrowing experience no matter where you are taking them. Even loading them for a trip to see a new girl friend or a place of better feed. They are pretty much recalcitrant no matter what the task.
The best way to load one is to try holding a bucket over its head and backing it wherever you want to go.