Horse Slaughter

spect8or · May 25, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

OK, spect8or, I'll get serious for a minute, but just for a minute. The truth is as much as I love animals, I admit it's hypocritical to protect cats, dogs and horses and not cows and pigs. Even though we do make a distinction between domesticated and wild animals in this country.

However, having said that, my problem is actually not with selling horse meat to Frenchman. My problem, and this does not just apply to horses, is the brutal torture of any animal. There are humane ways to kill an animal and then there is something called saving a buck. Slitting a horse's throat while it's still conscience is unspeakable. This is NOT how horses are suppose to be killed. And on top of that, I also made reference to the fact that many horses are stolen from private property and sold to butchers.

If horses or any animal are killed humanely, I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with people who are irresponsible as far as killing horses. Although I still can't figure out for the life of me why people eat horse meat when we have such an overabundance of other meat that is not considered domesticated meet.

It just seems to me that many farmers and butchers are lazy and trying to increase their bottom line at the expense of torturing an animal. And believe it or not, I'm also very much against the torture of humans regarding capital punishment. I think there are humane ways to kill people, such as lethal injection, and there are non humane ways, electrocution. So there's my two cents.

Oh okay. It's just that your opening post (which I'm assuming you didn't write) calls for the banning of horse slaughter, which I thought you were supporting (hence my question on your position).

From what I can tell reading that article, most horses are killed humanely, so it hardly seems to me that "..farmers and butchers are lazy and trying to increase their bottome line at the expense of torturing an animal".

I guess we agree then.

Maverick74 · May 25, 2004

Quote from spect8or:

Oh okay. It's just that your opening post (which I'm assuming you didn't write) calls for the banning of horse slaughter, which I thought you were supporting (hence my question on your position).

From what I can tell reading that article, most horses are killed humanely, so it hardly seems to me that "..farmers and butchers are lazy and trying to increase their bottome line at the expense of torturing an animal".

I guess we agree then.

Correct, I did not write that article. It was actually pulled off of Craig's list political board. I don't know who the author is so I could not give credit to anybody. Actually if you go to the websites mentioned in the article, they make many references to the horrible treatment of these horses before they are killed. I think that is unacceptable. From what I gathered, killing horses in a humane way is expensive and time consuming. Poor farmers, I hate to see them suffer financially.

And don't get me wrong, I do not support horse slaughter. I'm saying that I'm willing to accept it if it's done in a humane manner. If it were up to me, horse slaughter would not exist. But it's not up to me.

Cutten · May 25, 2004

Personally I think domestic animals should be *more* liable to be eaten as food, not less. Wild animals are the only ones with any balls, risking their survival daily, struggling to get by, whilst domestic pampered pooches and coddled cats get thousands spent on them by overpaid overweight Palm Beach grandmas. Personally I find domestic animals a joke, a disgrace to their species, a Darwinistic black hole which perverts everything good and great in nature.

Why should sharks and wild boar be hunted for food when some horse which willingly becomes a slave to humans gets a free pass? It's not as if horses are particulary intelligent animals, unlike Dolphins, which the US military enslaves in order to train them to clear underwater minefields. You're complaining about some washed up 2-bit pony being killed whilst Flipper is being ordered to headbut high explosives for a living?

Let's start practising true equality - if the meat tastes good, put it on the plate, and spare me the namby pamby liberal veggie BS.

Maverick74 · May 25, 2004

Quote from Cutten:

Personally I think domestic animals should be *more* liable to be eaten as food, not less. Wild animals are the only ones with any balls, risking their survival daily, struggling to get by, whilst domestic pampered pooches and coddled cats get thousands spent on them by overpaid overweight Palm Beach grandmas. Personally I find domestic animals a joke, a disgrace to their species, a Darwinistic black hole which perverts everything good and great in nature.

Why should sharks and wild boar be hunted for food when some horse which willingly becomes a slave to humans gets a free pass? It's not as if horses are particulary intelligent animals, unlike Dolphins, which the US military enslaves in order to train them to clear underwater minefields. You're complaining about some washed up 2-bit pony being killed whilst Flipper is being ordered to headbut high explosives for a living?

Let's start practising true equality - if the meat tastes good, put it on the plate, and spare me the namby pamby liberal veggie BS.

You know Cutten, I heard human meat is a delicacy.

Cutten · May 25, 2004

Quote from TigerO:

I think the comparison is just great, if one doesn't want to include a huge dosage of hypocrisy into the equation.

Truthful and straight to the point.

Personally I view it as extremely hypocritical - where is the photo of the huge numbers of plants that vegans murder each year? After all, plants and vegetables are living things too.

Cutten · May 25, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

You know Cutten, I heard human meat is a delicacy.

Well - if someone agreed to have their corpse roasted and served as food after their death, what is wrong with trying it?

Virtuoso · May 25, 2004

Quote from Cutten:

Personally I think domestic animals should be *more* liable to be eaten as food, not less. Wild animals are the only ones with any balls, risking their survival daily, struggling to get by, whilst domestic pampered pooches and coddled cats get thousands spent on them by overpaid overweight Palm Beach grandmas. Personally I find domestic animals a joke, a disgrace to their species, a Darwinistic black hole which perverts everything good and great in nature.

Why should sharks and wild boar be hunted for food when some horse which willingly becomes a slave to humans gets a free pass? It's not as if horses are particulary intelligent animals, unlike Dolphins, which the US military enslaves in order to train them to clear underwater minefields. You're complaining about some washed up 2-bit pony being killed whilst Flipper is being ordered to headbut high explosives for a living?

Let's start practising true equality - if the meat tastes good, put it on the plate, and spare me the namby pamby liberal veggie BS.

Maverick74 · May 25, 2004

Quote from Cutten:

Well - if someone agreed to have their corpse roasted and served as food after their death, what is wrong with trying it?

Oh, you want their approval first? Well, let me go ask Mr. Ed if he would kindly oblige and be on my dinner plate tonight. LOL. Now if he doesn't answer, can I still eat him?

Nolan-Vinny-Sam · May 25, 2004

Quote from Cutten:

Personally I think domestic animals should be *more* liable to be eaten as food, not less. Wild animals are the only ones with any balls, risking their survival daily, struggling to get by, whilst domestic pampered pooches and coddled cats get thousands spent on them by overpaid overweight Palm Beach grandmas. Personally I find domestic animals a joke, a disgrace to their species, a Darwinistic black hole which perverts everything good and great in nature.

Why should sharks and wild boar be hunted for food when some horse which willingly becomes a slave to humans gets a free pass? It's not as if horses are particulary intelligent animals, unlike Dolphins, which the US military enslaves in order to train them to clear underwater minefields. You're complaining about some washed up 2-bit pony being killed whilst Flipper is being ordered to headbut high explosives for a living?

Let's start practising true equality - if the meat tastes good, put it on the plate, and spare me the namby pamby liberal veggie BS.

sunnie · May 25, 2004

Quote from Maverick74:

Cavel, International plans to reopen its horse slaughter plant in DeKalb. The plant burned two years ago and has been closed ever since. The Illinois Senate voted yesterday in favor of banning horse slaughter.

WE NEED YOUR HELP TO MAKE SURE THE BAN GOES THROUGH! It must still be voted on in the House and the Governor must sign it into law. Please contact your state representative and tell them you do NOT want horses having their throats cut in your backyard. Tell them to follow the fine example of other states in banning slaughter forever.

For more information:
http://www.hr857.com/

Rescue Network
http://www.rescuenetwork.com/rescue/index.php

THANK YOU FOR HELPING END THE KILLING!

Maverick,

Thank you for the info...as a horse owner, you can be sure I support the bill.

In reading the bill, however, I am reminded that there are many products we use on horses (worming medication, fly spray, etc) that specifically say "Do not use on horses intended for consumption" , or something to that effect.... what are the chances people consuming horse meat are ingesting those toxins as well?.....my guess is, the chances are very good....