Homelessness in Hawaii

[gwb-trading]

(I am in Waikiki, Hawaii this week with my wife. In the past few days I have visited Pearl Harbor, snorkelled, and toured)

One of the problems I notice in Hawaii is the large number of homeless everywhere. The local papers report that Hawaii has the largest number of homeless per capita of any state.

The reasons for the high homeless population include high real estate rental costs and mild year round weather. Unlike other places in the US most of the homeless here are not mentally ill but doing it by choice.

Hawaii has few restrictions on the homeless. They can camp and stay effectively on all public property. There are dozens begging and living on Waikiki Beach - effectively ruining it for tourists.

The local politicians have had enough. All measures to have homeless voluntarily go in shelters have failed. Now politicians from both parties want to take forceful measures against the homeless. The leaders in this effort are Democrats (this is a Democratically controlled state). The Democratic legislative leader (Brower) was beaten by the homeless when visiting one of their camps. He has had enough and is pushing harsh measures over the past three years against the homeless on Oahu. Either they follow a set of laws that will be enacted or they will be locked up.

Interesting lead story locally. Other leading issues include the resignation of the leader of the authority (HART) putting in a high speed train which is two billion over budget.

 

[Braddock]

The reasons for the high homeless population include high real estate rental costs and mild year round weather. Unlike other places in the US most of the homeless here are not mentally ill but doing it by choice.

Most homeless are not "mentally ill". Nice generalization there...and the hawaii problem is similar to san francisco's problem - lack of enforcement by the leftists that people voted in...in other words, they create the situation they have now.

Hawaii has few restrictions on the homeless. They can camp and stay effectively on all public property. There are dozens begging and living on Waikiki Beach - effectively ruining it for tourists.

What are people to do if they cannot spend their week in hawaii? May as well end it all...

The local politicians have had enough. All measures to have homeless voluntarily go in shelters have failed. Now politicians from both parties want to take forceful measures against the homeless. The leaders in this effort are Democrats (this is a Democratically controlled state). The Democratic legislative leader (Brower) was beaten by the homeless when visiting one of their camps. He has had enough and is pushing harsh measures over the past three years against the homeless on Oahu. Either they follow a set of laws that will be enacted or they will be locked up.

Did you really just say democrats are leading? Democrats are criminals and will allow crime and corruption to continue so long as it suits them. It's like you still think they're a legitimate political party in America, or anything other than the lowest form of human existence possible. Removing democrats from hawaii would immediately improve the state to a far greater degree than removing the homeless would.

 

[gwb-trading]

Most homeless are not "mentally ill". Nice generalization there...and the hawaii problem is similar to san francisco's problem - lack of enforcement by the leftists that people voted in...in other words, they create the situation they have now.



What are people to do if they cannot spend their week in hawaii? May as well end it all...



Did you really just say democrats are leading? Democrats are criminals and will allow crime and corruption to continue so long as it suits them. It's like you still think they're a legitimate political party in America, or anything other than the lowest form of human existence possible. Removing democrats from hawaii would immediately improve the state to a far greater degree than removing the homeless would.

In the majority of cities I have visited in North America most of the permanent homeless have mental issues - this is backed up by statistics and studies.

In Hawaii, tourism is the largest industry representing over 15.3 billion dollars yearly. If all the benches on Waikiki bench are taken up by the homeless and the tourists are upset then your state had a problem.

In some sense, previous Democratic policies have caused the large homeless problem here. Now it is a widespread problem and they are being forced to go on the opposite direction in regards to policy.

 

[wildchild]

In the majority of cities I have visited in North America most of the permanent homeless have mental issues - this is backed up by statistics and studies.

In Hawaii, tourism is the largest industry representing over 15.3 billion dollars yearly. If all the benches on Waikiki bench are taken up by the homeless and the tourists are upset then your state had a problem.

In some sense, previous Democratic policies have caused the large homeless problem here. Now it is a widespread problem and they are being forced to go on the opposite direction in regards to policy.

It depends where you are. There are plenty of losers in California who are homeless because the weather is not too bad and you get a lot of benefits. I remember going to Santa Cruz and they had all these homeless bums hanging out. The only possession most of them had was a surfboard. They would hang out, surf, and do drugs and you better bet they vote democrat.

If you go to any cities in the north east or mid west during the winter, you will see really hardcore homelessness. Go to Buffalo in January and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

 

[gwb-trading]

It depends where you are. There are plenty of losers in California who are homeless because the weather is not too bad and you get a lot of benefits. I remember going to Santa Cruz and they had all these homeless bums hanging out. The only possession most of them had was a surfboard. They would hang out, surf, and do drugs and you better bet they vote democrat.

If you go to any cities in the north east or mid west during the winter, you will see really hardcore homelessness. Go to Buffalo in January and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

Yes, most of my experience in seeing homeless people is in cities that have harsh winters.

California in some sense has the same issues as Hawaii in regards to homelessness.

 

[wildchild]

Yes, most of my experience in seeing homeless people is in cities that have harsh winters.

I remember seeing this dude in Baltimore in mid January who was homeless and he just lost it. He was on the sideway yelling and screaming and I wanted to give a 20 but wasnt sure if was going to pull something if I got too close. It was January and about 15f outside and the guy was in bad shape.

 

[WildBill]

LA city leaders shipped off a bunch of homeless to Hawaii when they had the Olympics in the 80's.

 

[Braddock]

In the majority of cities I have visited in North America most of the permanent homeless have mental issues - this is backed up by statistics and studies.

There are numerous reasons a person can go homeless, and neither stats nor the studies (aka surveys) support the notion that a preponderence of them are mentally ill.

Most people have mental issues. The snobbish elitism of your position is characterized by a mental issue.

In Hawaii, tourism is the largest industry representing over 15.3 billion dollars yearly. If all the benches on Waikiki bench are taken up by the homeless and the tourists are upset then your state had a problem.

It was ridiculous when you first mentioned it, and now that you're trying to defend it by stating that tourists are "upset" by homeless laying around on benches just makes it even more ludicrous.

If industry is displacing citizens by driving up the cost of real estate disproportionately, and that is what's happening there and many other places, then it's time to clamp down on industry and limit who can purchase land and what can be done with the land. Whoring out the state to corporate interests is simply a small scale of what has been happening with America as a whole - globalism - and globalism is coming to an abrupt and well-deserved end quite soon.

In some sense, previous Democratic policies have caused the large homeless problem here. Now it is a widespread problem and they are being forced to go on the opposite direction in regards to policy.

It's democrat, not democratic. There is nothing democratic about democrats.

 

[gwb-trading]

There are numerous reasons a person can go homeless, and neither stats nor the studies (aka surveys) support the notion that a preponderence of them are mentally ill.

Most people have mental issues. The snobbish elitism of your position is characterized by a mental issue.



It was ridiculous when you first mentioned it, and now that you're trying to defend it by stating that tourists are "upset" by homeless laying around on benches just makes it even more ludicrous.

If industry is displacing citizens by driving up the cost of real estate disproportionately, and that is what's happening there and many other places, then it's time to clamp down on industry and limit who can purchase land and what can be done with the land. Whoring out the state to corporate interests is simply a small scale of what has been happening with America as a whole - globalism - and globalism is coming to an abrupt and well-deserved end quite soon.



It's democrat, not democratic. There is nothing democratic about democrats.

The local paper, Honolulu Star Advertiser, has had a story every day on their front page covering the homeless situation in Hawaii. It includes commentary from upset tourists, government officials, and the history of the problem. I would urge you to read the entire series in detail to be properly informed.

Here is a link to one of the stories...

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawai...mouse-game-between-the-city-and-the-homeless/

 

[Braddock]

The local paper, Honolulu Star Advertiser, has had a story every day on their front page covering the homeless situation in Hawaii. It includes commentary from upset tourists, government officials, and the history of the problem. I would urge you to read the entire series in detail to be properly informed.

Here is a link to one of the stories...

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawai...mouse-game-between-the-city-and-the-homeless/

I'd urge you to stop citing a Canadian corporate-owned newspaper as a valid, objective source of information about the "homeless situation" in Hawaii...but I'll give you credit for calling it a "story" and not a "report", because it is in fact a story.