Holy....that was...quite a press conference.

[Zzzz1]

I see you chickened out of my offer. Thanks for the confirmation. Just because you try to prove you have a natural advantage in the English language department doesn't grow your tiny balls any bigger. By the way this is a trading related website not a political one you moron. I wonder why you stick around here and not in the comments section of the Ft where you are among more intellectual types than your lowlife imbecile brown friends here. Maybe you enjoy being admired by stupid farmers and rednecks. I am certain you will deeply regret your Trump choice down the road in the exact same way you fucked up your choices of the previous 8 years. Making an unethical and immoral choice just because you don't like the more palatable option was never a good choice. Watching Trump's ex Escort slut praying the Lord's prayer should make any conservative Christian vomit. Brood of vipers. You just sided with the devil himself. Good riddance pal.

You can check back in 24 hours, or every hour on the hour. Doesn't change the simple fact that just about every claim you make about someone else is bullshit. You do your best to make commentary about everyone else, how people are flawed simply because they don't share your political beliefs, or any number of accusations about others that you never back up with one iota of proof. You do this while never looking in the mirror to see what an ass you are yourself.

Every single thing I have said about myself is true. Every. Single. Thing. I challenge you to find one lie and call me on it. Every time you've tried, I've offered to prove it. You turn around and change the topic to something your comfortable with. As I said before, that is how weasels behave. Sneaky little rodents and the like. That's you. Claiming to not be volpunter when everyone figured out who you were because - same asshole, different nickname. It's easy to figure that stuff out.

I'm sure your trading account is as you say it is. Trading is, after all, why you ran off to be alone in Asia, right? I have a son and a beautiful wife. I have an excellent job that pays fantastically, doing something I enjoy, working for a great firm that will provide a nice exit package in 3-5 years when targeted multiples are achieved. I wouldn't trade my life for anyone's. Especially yours.

I'm also the only American out of the two of us on an American politics forum.

 

[Arnie]

So let me get this straight, you get your ass kicked all through this thread, then you resort to the usual troll comment about how I must not be a trader, or where's my trading content, etc. So I show you a thread where I used to comment on trading here at ET, and you do your best to find fault on it. You're reaching for anything you can, and it's obvious desperation. So let's do this and get you to buck up.

I propose the following. I will prove that I have active trading accounts of at least the value of $250,000. You and I will agree on a member that can act as escrow. Each one of us will put up, say, $10,000. If I do not have an active trading account of at least $250,000, you get my money. If I do, I get yours. I propose Baron, the site owner, as escrow. I will also accept desterio (atticus), as I know him and trust him.

So what say you? Put up or shut up, Volpunter.

I have to run to a meeting for the next 30 min or so. I'll be back. I expect at that time you will either

1. grow a set of balls and agree to the wager
2. run away from the thread, claiming being tired or needing sleep
3. come up with some other excuse about how you don't bet, or you don't trust the bet, etc.

I'm going with #3, because that's what fucking weasels do.

Looks like #3 was the winner.

 

[piezoe]

My point was that Obama lied about how when and why he gave them the money.

what did he say that was a lie???

 

[Tsing Tao]

I see you chickened out of my offer. Thanks for the confirmation.

Chickened out on what offer? To bet that your trading account is larger than mine? Again, I never suggested it wasn't. You suggested I didn't have a trading account. You're the one that chickened out. It's smart to not bet something you know to be true. You're just pissed off I called you on something and (again) you got schooled.

Just because you try to prove you have a natural advantage in the English language department doesn't grow your tiny balls any bigger.

Well, this is an English/American website.

By the way this is a trading related website not a political one you moron.

But it's a political forum. (you moron)

I wonder why you stick around here and not in the comments section of the Ft where you are among more intellectual types than your lowlife imbecile brown friends here. Maybe you enjoy being admired by stupid farmers and rednecks.

Lots of smart folk here. You're not one of them, though.

I am certain you will deeply regret your Trump choice down the road in the exact same way you fucked up your choices of the previous 8 years.

What choices did I fuck up in the last 8 years? I mean, you're wrong about everything else, why would anyone believe you'd be right about Trump?

Making an unethical and immoral choice just because you don't like the more palatable option was never a good choice.

That's just it, there wasn't a more palatable option. Were there, I would have chosen it. Just because you liked Hillary better doesn't mean shit. Especially since you don't even have a vote.

Watching Trump's ex Escort slut praying the Lord's prayer should make any conservative Christian vomit. Brood of vipers. You just sided with the devil himself. Good riddance pal.

Anything that upsets you is good in my book. Here's to another 4 years of pissing you off, hopefully another 8. Maybe by then you'll have slit your wrists in the tub and done the world a favor.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Looks like #3 was the winner.

Yep. Weaseled out and tried to make it about some new bet regarding the size of his trading account (which was never part of the discussion). That's what weasels do!

 

[jem]

there were myraid lies... but the most obvious one is that the 400 million was not a ransom for the hostages...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...million-payment-iran-was-contingent-prisoner-

If you define "ransom" as "a payment exchanged contingent on the release of a hostage" then you find yourself forced to admit that President Obama lied last week when he aggressively denied (and was irked at the question) that he paid Iran a $400 million ransom for the return of 4 hostages. Today, The State Department's spokesperson John Kirby told the truth that the Iran payment was contingent on the prisoner release... but of course spun this 'ransom' payment as masterful diplomacy "deliberately leveraging the moment."

As Bloomberg reports,



The U.S. withheld a $400 million cash payment to Iran earlier this year as leverage to ensure that American prisoners would be released as the country had promised, State Department spokesman John Kirby said.



“We were able to conclude multiple strands of diplomacy within a 24-hour period,” Kirby told reporters in Washington on Thursday. “We deliberately leveraged that moment.”



Kirby was responding to a report in the Wall Street Journal that the U.S. wouldn’t let Iran take control of the money -- which the country was owed as part of a $1.7 billion settlement over a long-running dispute -- until a plane carrying the American prisoners had left Iran in January.



Disputes over the timing of the payment have fueled criticism of the administration’s nuclear deal with the Islamic Republic. While the U.S. has said talks over the release of the prisoners were held separately from last year’s negotiations on the payment and the nuclear deal, Kirby’s comments represented an acknowledgment that those two matters eventually converged.

Previously, US official stated on the record that the $400 million payment to Iran was separate from the hostages. This is what State Dept. spokesman John Kirby told the WSJ two weeks ago:



“As we’ve made clear, the negotiations over the settlement of an outstanding claim… were completely separate from the discussions about returning our American citizens home,” State Department spokesman John Kirby had told the Wall Street Journal.

Which should serve as a reminder: if lying, especially as a president, don't leave a trail, and definitely don't get caught.

what did he say that was a lie???

 

[piezoe]

there were myraid lies... but the most obvious one is that the 400 million was not a ransom for the hostages...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...million-payment-iran-was-contingent-prisoner-

If you define "ransom" as "a payment exchanged contingent on the release of a hostage" then you find yourself forced to admit that President Obama lied last week when he aggressively denied (and was irked at the question) that he paid Iran a $400 million ransom for the return of 4 hostages. Today, The State Department's spokesperson John Kirby told the truth that the Iran payment was contingent on the prisoner release... but of course spun this 'ransom' payment as masterful diplomacy "deliberately leveraging the moment."

As Bloomberg reports,



The U.S. withheld a $400 million cash payment to Iran earlier this year as leverage to ensure that American prisoners would be released as the country had promised, State Department spokesman John Kirby said.



“We were able to conclude multiple strands of diplomacy within a 24-hour period,” Kirby told reporters in Washington on Thursday. “We deliberately leveraged that moment.”



Kirby was responding to a report in the Wall Street Journal that the U.S. wouldn’t let Iran take control of the money -- which the country was owed as part of a $1.7 billion settlement over a long-running dispute -- until a plane carrying the American prisoners had left Iran in January.



Disputes over the timing of the payment have fueled criticism of the administration’s nuclear deal with the Islamic Republic. While the U.S. has said talks over the release of the prisoners were held separately from last year’s negotiations on the payment and the nuclear deal, Kirby’s comments represented an acknowledgment that those two matters eventually converged.

Previously, US official stated on the record that the $400 million payment to Iran was separate from the hostages. This is what State Dept. spokesman John Kirby told the WSJ two weeks ago:



“As we’ve made clear, the negotiations over the settlement of an outstanding claim… were completely separate from the discussions about returning our American citizens home,” State Department spokesman John Kirby had told the Wall Street Journal.

Which should serve as a reminder: if lying, especially as a president, don't leave a trail, and definitely don't get caught.

Apparently your having trouble with reading comprehension. Read the fortune article again please. I gave a link to it. You will learn that the 400$ is less than a third what we owe Iran for military hardware they paid for and we never delivered! Obama has it right! You have your usual nutso take on it.

from Fortune. (see the link I posted.)

Presidents Day 2017Trump Embraces Legacy of Andrew Jackson
The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. "The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries," says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. "Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That's why it was so difficult to resolve."

By 2015, the issue stood before a panel of nine judges, including three independent jurists, who were reportedly near a decision on binding arbitration. According to Obama administration officials, the U.S. was concerned that the tribunal would mandate an award in the multiple billions of dollars. "The Iranians wanted $10 billion," says Sick."I estimate that the tribunal would have awarded them $4 billion. That's what the lawyers were saying. It's not as much as they wanted, but a lot more than we paid."

So instead, the U.S. negotiators convinced Iran to move the dispute from arbitration to a private settlement. The two sides reached an agreement in mid-2015, at the same time as the U.S. and Iran reached a comprehensive pact on curtailing Iran's development of nuclear weapons. The financial deal called for the U.S. to refund $1.7 billion to Tehran, consisting of the original $400 million contract for military equipment, plus $1.3 billion in interest.​

 

[Zzzz1]

Wishing someone committing suicide only shows how angry you are and overboard you have gone. I would not wish that to my worst enemy. You have a lot of hatred stowed up in those tiny balls of yours. I still am 100% convinced you are maintaining a great facade here and in reality you are a pretty bitter small guy who lost his manufacturing job some time ago. Then you started blaming Obama for all your ills. You may not realize it but this recent election was never about two persons.

To sum up, yes you never claimed to have a bigger trading account than I have, something which I was prepared to prove. It was banter when I said you most likely have no trading account at all for which you totally fell and got all riled up. Yet you pussied out and stopped short at going all in because those 100k seemed to mean the world to you which obviously shows you are way not as well off as you claim you are. No matter how angry you are or how you try to hurt someone with wishing someone commit suicide, I find it tasteless and a reflection of your poor character. You don't hurt me at all with that, I am realistic enough to realize that you are just a little dwarf on an anonymous forum who is all excited about a career con artist and liar as president and his ex wife who worked at an escort agency.

Chickened out on what offer? To bet that your trading account is larger than mine? Again, I never suggested it wasn't. You suggested I didn't have a trading account. You're the one that chickened out. It's smart to not bet something you know to be true. You're just pissed off I called you on something and (again) you got schooled.



Well, this is an English/American website.



But it's a political forum. (you moron)



Lots of smart folk here. You're not one of them, though.



What choices did I fuck up in the last 8 years? I mean, you're wrong about everything else, why would anyone believe you'd be right about Trump?



That's just it, there wasn't a more palatable option. Were there, I would have chosen it. Just because you liked Hillary better doesn't mean shit. Especially since you don't even have a vote.



Anything that upsets you is good in my book. Here's to another 4 years of pissing you off, hopefully another 8. Maybe by then you'll have slit your wrists in the tub and done the world a favor.

 

[RRY16]

Both of you are multiple handle cons, time for both of you to give it a rest

 

[jem]

again you seem to misunderstand the definition of a ransom.

There is no qualification which states its not a ransom if the money used to free the hostages was related to a 37 year old potential debt.

Lets look at the definition...

ransom...
"obtain the release of (a prisoner) by making a payment demanded."
"the lord was captured in war and had to be ransomed"


Iran said it was a ransom and would not release hostage til the money showed up. The money showed up, the hostages were released.

Apparently your having trouble with reading comprehension. Read the fortune article again please. I gave a link to it. You will learn that the 400$ is less than a third what we owe Iran for military hardware they paid for and we never delivered! Obama has it right! You have your usual nutso take on it.

from Fortune. (see the link I posted.)

Presidents Day 2017Trump Embraces Legacy of Andrew Jackson
The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. "The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries," says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. "Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That's why it was so difficult to resolve."

By 2015, the issue stood before a panel of nine judges, including three independent jurists, who were reportedly near a decision on binding arbitration. According to Obama administration officials, the U.S. was concerned that the tribunal would mandate an award in the multiple billions of dollars. "The Iranians wanted $10 billion," says Sick."I estimate that the tribunal would have awarded them $4 billion. That's what the lawyers were saying. It's not as much as they wanted, but a lot more than we paid."

So instead, the U.S. negotiators convinced Iran to move the dispute from arbitration to a private settlement. The two sides reached an agreement in mid-2015, at the same time as the U.S. and Iran reached a comprehensive pact on curtailing Iran's development of nuclear weapons. The financial deal called for the U.S. to refund $1.7 billion to Tehran, consisting of the original $400 million contract for military equipment, plus $1.3 billion in interest.​