Holocaust survivors sue Chase Manhattan Bank

[dgabriel]

Quote from harrytrader:

and I have no sects.

Try it, it might loosen you up

 

[harrytrader]

You seem to know better than me

Quote from dgabriel:



Try it, it might loosen you up

 

[harrytrader]

I'm happy you tried to answer objectively. And do you think that history is just random walk and that the present has no connection with the past. Do you think that events history are linear and that sudden wrecks cannot happen ? You are helpless ? Why are you helpless ? Because everybody thinks that also ? Do you make any connection with the mass psychology of market

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Well, The Chase story probably has some elements of truth to it, as many large American firms had offices in and/or dealings with Nazi Germany prior to the outbreak of WW2. That is my opinion.

The Rockefellers, Nelson in particular, had a significant role in the founding of the Museum of Modern Art, however, they do not control it. A board does and Ronald Lauder (a Jew) is head of that board now and Agnes Gund is President.

Nazi confiscated artwork still unreturned should be repatrioted to
the original owners. Germany should be ultimately financially responsible for these thefts. That is, if heirs of a Nazi victim can prove that a work in a collection belonged to thier ascendant and was confiscated, then the courts ought to order their return and Germany (or Austria, or the confiscating country) be forced to purchase them from the current "owners" as compensation, as the current owners almost universally bought these works in good faith. Many of these works entered the art market after WW2 with false provenances to lubricate thier sales. MOMA has not been charged with holding confiscated artwork in thier collection.

 

[dgabriel]

Quote from harrytrader:

Do you think that events history are linear and that sudden wrecks cannot happen ?

Essentially linear with wrecks. But there is no inevitability to human history. That's for the Marxists.

 

[harrytrader]

No inevitability : sure and since my father was assassinated by communists be assured that I am not a marxist. But I try to stay objective and say that a priori your argument about the marxist has nothing to do with inevitability.

Your inevitability has much more to do with pure faith than objective arguments: how can you pretend that things are inevitable if people don't look at facts and don't foresee their possible consequences so as to prevent them

P.S.: I'm not anarchist either : I love sons of rich and I come from very rich families myself In fact I have always been a liberal (liberal means right wing in France so as to be sure of not being misunderstood) for a true free market. And if we have a market, it is not really free if so all indices in the world would not behave like a single indice so that diversification of risk is impossible and everyone submitted to the dictature of market notably the consumption level in economy.

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Essentially linear with wrecks. But there is no inevitability to human history. That's for the Marxists.

 

[dgabriel]

Sigh

Perhaps it is a language problem, but I cannot tell if your use of "you" refers to me, or is a rhetorical device.

There is no inevitability to history, my belief.

Marxism has as its central tenet social change in historical stages and the INEVITABLE arrival to communism as the final stage in the evolution of human history. Karl's belief, and many deluded followers.

Sorry about your pops.

Your facts maybe my lies, Harry.