hmm.no edges in the markets

Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

If your algorithm uses statistics generated by market trading as inputs, then the algo uses TA.

Exactly. One can call it with a lot of different names, essentially it's the same TA.

The 'charlatans' argument is true in every field. People on main street going "hedge funds are a scam, just look at Madoff", does it mean that all hedge funds are scams? No.
 
It almost feels like some people would rather be an unsuccessful trader who doesn't use any TA than a successful one that does. Madness! :D

Quote from d08:

Exactly. One can call it with a lot of different names, essentially it's the same TA.

The 'charlatans' argument is true in every field. People on main street going "hedge funds are a scam, just look at Madoff", does it mean that all hedge funds are scams? No.
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

So you are suggesting that TA traders make live calls so others can treat them the same way as they did you? Does that make any sense?


Neither me or any TA disbelievers have ever see any TA traders make live call that are in profit.

May be I am missing something here, if you have any link that proof TA are profitable in live calls, please post the link.
 
Quote from galvinlee888:

You hit the point, quantitative trading is real and this is the reason why the institution that I worked before hire hundreds of PhD to work on this. The algorithm is super complicated and I will not say anything in public forum.

Those strategies are not designed to be used by individual traders, the capital requirements to hire hundreds of people, design and run these systems price the majority out of the market. Does this prove quantitative trading is the only real method of trading? Or is this simply a case of quantitative trading being the best and currently the most advanced frame work for institutions to employ Vast amounts of capital in the financial markets.

Is trading new? Did the market not exist before hundreds of PhDs could be hired to create systems for a single firm? The answer is obvious and its obvious from your posting you have never made it in this market on your own.

You may have worked at a firm yet you are expecting us to believe you, on your own, are running systems that required the firm to hire hundreds of PhDs to design and run?

Thanks for the laugh.
 
If you are too lazy to search this site, then that is your problem. There have been numerous live posting by TA traders on this site. I personally do not follow anyone's trading but have come across a bunch over the years.

And why do you care anyways, don't you already have a "real" method that is super secret and successful?


Quote from galvinlee888:

Neither me or any TA disbelievers have ever see any TA traders make live call that are in profit.

May be I am missing something here, if you have any link that proof TA are profitable in live calls, please post the link.


I did make a few live calls in ET (do your own search) which are completely non TA related

 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

If you are too lazy to search this site, then that is your problem. There have been numerous live posting by TA traders on this site. I personally do not follow anyone's trading but have come across a bunch over the years.

And why do you care anyways, don't you already have a "real" method that is super secret and successful?

Honestly, I don't care about TA.

The main point in this post is myself or Surf or any TA disbelievers ask any TA experts here to prove they are profitable via live call or even any past links. I went through a few of the TA live calls and non of them proof to be profitable in long term, the best is almost break even. The answer is pretty obvious now.

As I said, for those who interest in real discussion, please IM me, and I will ignore all the TA guru IM for sure :D
 
Quote from sheda:

Those strategies are not designed to be used by individual traders, the capital requirements to hire hundreds of people, design and run these systems price the majority out of the market. Does this prove quantitative trading is the only real method of trading? Or is this simply a case of quantitative trading being the best and currently the most advanced frame work for institutions to employ Vast amounts of capital in the financial markets.

Is trading new? Did the market not exist before hundreds of PhDs could be hired to create systems for a single firm? The answer is obvious and its obvious from your posting you have never made it in this market on your own.

You may have worked at a firm yet you are expecting us to believe you, on your own, are running systems that required the firm to hire hundreds of PhDs to design and run?

Thanks for the laugh.

I left the place in 2010. Thanks to the new rule post the clash.

I will not say anything on the algorithm and how the system work in public forum. Anyone interest in serious trading discussion please IM me. Note: I will ignore all the TA gurus.
 
Just because you start something off by saying "honestly"....it doesnt mean what you are about to say is honest :D

Kinda like when someone says "with all due respect"...it usually is followed by criticism.

It's funny, as someone who claims to be a quantitative trader, I'm surprised that you find a "few calls" as sufficient to make a judgment. The sample size is tiny. Not to mention that MOST traders who attempt to trade end up failing, regardless of what approach they take.

Anyways, no matter now. You said the answer is "pretty obvious now" so I guess you will stop demanding live calls or talking about TA, right? Good to hear, have a nice day.

Quote from galvinlee888:

Honestly, I don't care about TA.

The main point in this post is myself or Surf or any TA disbelievers ask any TA experts here to prove they are profitable via live call or even any past links. I went through a few of the TA live calls and non of them proof to be profitable in long term, the best is almost break even. The answer is pretty obvious now.

As I said, for those who interest in real discussion, please IM me, and I will ignore all the TA guru IM for sure :D
 
Quote from galvinlee888:
As I said, for those who interest in real discussion, please IM me, and I will ignore all the TA guru IM for sure :D

You wont impart the knowledge to me over IM that would allow me to save hundreds of millions hiring PhDs grads and building systems just because I posted a moving average? :D
 
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

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Anyways, no matter now. You said the answer is "pretty obvious now" so I guess you will stop demanding live calls or talking about TA, right? Good to hear, have a nice day.

I can feel someone (or even a whole TA group) are trying to avoid the live call or even a posted a link that proof TA is working.

The answer is obvious now.

:D
 
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